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EJAS
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Initially Posted - 07/11/2012 : 20:57:40

On June 29th my 1986 Catalina 25' drifted in extreme tide and wind, attached to it's mooring, onto the jetti at the marina. This resulted in damage to the hull and a breach of one of the thru-hulls. As a result the boat took on significant amount of water. To boot some J#$K A$# boarded the boat and tried to claim it as salvage seeing a quick opportunity to rescue a boat in distress and then place a lien on it. I was lucky that the Coast C+Guard assisted me in getting him off the boat and the marina employees then pumping out the boat and getting it lifted to hard by the end of the day. However, I know have a boat in need of many items to restore her.

First I need a new ladder (damaged on jetti), second I need all of the companionway woodwork, including the hatchboards and primary interior bilge cover (due to J#$K A$# kicking these in his attempt to gain access to and possess the boat), Thirdly, I need a battery selector switch and electronic panel. I am happy to pay for these items, but I am hoping that someone may be parting out a vessel and be able to assist me. I need to repair the boat economically as this event has provided my wife with the golden opportunity of saying enough, get rid of the boat.

Any thoughts or suggestions would be welcome. Yes, I know that Catalina Direct has many of these items, but as I said I am seeking to do this economically and without my wife thinking there is a large financial drain. My money really needs to focus on the gelcoat and keel fiberglass repair.

If this does not work out the next step will be to part out the boat which would be unfortunate.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 : 21:28:06

Who was the jackass, and why isn't he responsible for damaging personal property where nobody was in danger (other than himself) and nobody had requested assistance? I think local law enforcement should be involved, and any damage he even <i>remotely</i> contributed to should be his responsibility--at whatever prices Catalina Direct wants to charge (plus labor for any work required). You take your chances, and you pay your dues!

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 : 21:38:56

I agree with Dave.

I'd try to track down the jackass and kick in his "hatchboards" and maybe his "grill" too!

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EJAS
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 : 21:49:50

Maritime Salvage law is very vague on this and it is in dispute whether he was allowed to board the boat. If a boat is in distress, pilotless and in a navigable area then it is possible for someone to board your boat to claim it or place a lien on it. In this case technically the boat was still attached to the mooring, but still not clear under the law.

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 : 22:30:21

I wouldn't recommend suing him. He would be forced to counter sue, and claim right of salvage, and someone has to win and someone has to lose, and there is enough ambiguity in salvage law that you can't be sure you would end up the winner. Don't start a war in court unless you're sure you can win it. But, IMO, there's absolutely no doubt he's a J#$K A$#.

If you'll search our "Swap Meet," there are usually one or two boats being parted out at any given time, and you can often buy parts from them reasonably. Failing that, I'd suggest you fabricate the bilge cover out of plywood, or trim around the companionway with oak. I'd suggest you make new hatchboards out of starboard or perhaps smoked lexan. I made a set of extra hatchboards out of plywood for my C25, to use while I took the originals home to refinish them. Recently, I made a single lexan hatchboard to replace the original on a racing dinghy. In fact, I gave the lexan supplier the old hatchboard to use as a pattern, and I got lucky and he cut it and did all the millwork for me at a very reasonable price. The repairs don't have to be to factory specifications. Make sure it looks nice and is functional. Otherwise, use your creativity.

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dragonf1y
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Response Posted - 07/11/2012 : 23:45:38

I have an extra battery selector switch that came with my boat. It's in the package 'new', but clearly was bought quite some time ago. I have to show my boat tomorrow and I can bring it home and/or take a photo. I'd donate it to the cause if you paid shipping.

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iwillnotsubmit
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 04:12:40

EJAS, I replaced my electric panel and you are welcome to have the original from my boat. It is functional, I just wanted to upgrade. My email is rkhauling@gmaildotcom. Just let me know where to send it and its yours. Sorry about the jackhole. I hope you get your Cat back in sailing order soon. Good luck!

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krobsten
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 06:43:57

So sorry to hear about this. I might have some weathered companionway boards in a week or two--still trying to swing a deal with someone else. Fine, just dried out. You can have them for free once I find out.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 06:47:39

Oppsss.. sorry to hear but don't worry, if you have some epoxy, all this wood can be glued back together and then sanded.
I did it this year with the two companion hatch boards but the damage was from PO, not from "intruder".

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Sam001
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 07:07:23

Best of luck on the repair. I have some material I was going to put on the swap meet. I will get the pics taken and up and you can see if there is any you can use. Sam

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 08:32:33

Wa it your mooring or were you leasing it? Any liability there?

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EJAS
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 09:52:55

All, I have responded to peoples offers directly, but let me say I am humbled by everyone's input and generosity. Boaters are wonderful people and that proves itself time and time again. Hence the value of owning a sailboat and being able to pass that mentality and experience on to my children. The boat is in the upper Chesapeake area, so if anyone has suggestions on someone that does excellent work on fiberglass and gelcoat repairs that information would also be welcomed.
Kind Regards to all,
EJAS

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 10:48:21

Very sorry to hear about your troubles. Wish I had something to contribute to the cause. from the replies I've read, it looks like you'll be in good shape once you get the hull damages repaired. Luckily, you didn't lose the whole boat.

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sethp001
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 12:33:07

EJAS, sorry for your loss. After breaking the hatch boards, did this guy provide any aid at all, do anything to prevent the boat from sinking or incurring additional damage, from causing further damage to the marina, or from causing further damage to someone else's property?

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MrKawfey
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 14:02:53

EJAS, I have a ladder that I removed from my boat that I would be happy to sell. I don't know if you still need one and I haven't yet figured out how to post pictures, but if you email me I will send you a picture so you can see if it is the right style.

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islander
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 15:57:31

About your ladder I believe that Awetmore is looking for a ladder

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 16:01:28

I am. It sounds like EJAS is in greater immediate need (mine is corroded through, but not completely missing), but if two ladders come up I'm very interested in one of them.

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MrKawfey
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Response Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:11:04

Ok figured out how to post pics. Here is the ladder I have.

I also have these two brackets that came off with it.

as well as some other 1" hardware like elbows and t's

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MrKawfey
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Response Posted - 07/13/2012 : 18:03:03

EJAS, I emailed you back, but the pics were large. Just wanted to make sure you got the email and it didn't get sent to junk mail or filtered out.

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