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OJ
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Initially Posted - 06/09/2012 : 20:57:55

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Catalina-Sloop-25-Used-Sailboat-Trailer-Connecticut-/360465494342?pt=Sailboats&hash=item53ed6af146

1989 C25 TR/WK, #5822
1973 McVay Minuet 19
1975 Jester 12
1981 C25 SR/SK, #2428
1981 C22 SR/SK,
Tanzer 16
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/09/2012 : 21:20:05

Man, I'd be afraid to go inside that boat without a respirator. It looks like there's a fine coat of mold everywhere.

The price is right though...

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 06/09/2012 : 21:43:58

Well OJ, its teh L-dinette, which went out of production before 1984, so I think they are just confused about teh year. Its NOT 1974 for sure, but it can't be too far into production. I think they only made the L-dinette for a few years. I could be wrong though.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 08:14:06

Well....it's not "gone"...but will need a ton of work cleaning her up...Owner states it was last used August '11.....I don't believe that.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 11:21:13

Obviously this boat had a foot or more water in it for some period of time.

When did Catalina move to the bow lights on the pulpit vs the old style lights on each side of the bow?

Anytime a sellor fills up the majority of the ad with disclaimers I'm not buying from them.

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 12:15:37

I just read through the ad again, and noticed a $249 "documentation" fee I didn't see before. That means a 50% increase in the current price ($570), I wonder how many bidders have seen that part of the ad? It's way down in all the disclaimers, admittedly in large text, but if you've glazed over from reading the rest of it, you may not see it and get a nasty surprise.

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Kim Luckner
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 14:03:12

My '79 has the "L" dinette as a point of chronology.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 17:32:48

ad must haave been edited" 74 now. Trailer incl.! If someone buys and doesn't need the trailer. If I was closer, the trailer alone may be worth it incl. the doc fees

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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 18:39:14

David - thats pretty common on these charity auctions of boats and cars. Whenever you see a charity selling, you have to read the whole ad very carefully.

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BCG-Woodbury
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 19:16:36

I was just there today at Defender, I wish I had known about it earlier I could have checked it out. Is anyone interested? Let me know.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/10/2012 : 21:02:44

My 1984 boat had the bow lights on the pulpit, no whale eyes. IIRC, that change was made during or prior to 1982. From other listings I've seen, the L-dinette appears to have been produced from at least 1977 thru 1981, and the 81's had whale eyes, so without knowing the hull number, the boat for sale above could be an 81 boat.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/11/2012 : 18:59:42

FWIW, the trailer may have been used as a yard trailer - it has no winch mast. Also cannot see a brake master cylinder. Ah, but there appears to be a license plate.

Another boat that looks neglected but not abused . . .

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 06/14/2012 : 06:40:42

bummer.....bid on this with at worst salvage and trailer in mind: outbid with one day to go.

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Response Posted - 06/14/2012 : 07:15:54

Maybe Chuck Shaw's Confetti isn't really the first C-25...

So there's a stainless steel plate screwed to the outside of the hull to cover an "abrasion"? Interesting repair...

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 06/14/2012 : 19:34:08

I was just reminded how interesting the eBay bidding can be....bid up to the most I was comfortable with sight unseen: hoping for a trailer that funds from parting could bring up to proper repair.....winning with <1min to go, I had to increase bid by $50, then 1sec to go, the bidding went up another $700, doubling the current bid?!!!

Dave, I caught that stainless patch too...how many other "repairs" are of that caliber

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Response Posted - 06/14/2012 : 21:01:27

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ape-X
 I was just reminded how interesting the eBay bidding can be....bid up to the most I was comfortable with sight unseen: hoping for a trailer that funds from parting could bring up to proper repair.....winning with <1min to go, I had to increase bid by $50, then 1sec to go, the bidding went up another $700, doubling the current bid?!!!...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Very common. Much of this is done with sniper sites. I use auctionstealer.com.

Before I used sniper sites, I once placed an aggressive bid on an expensive musical instrument that should have won the auction at a much lower value. But an inexperienced bidder kept upping his bid by $100, only to be automatically topped by my original bid. He kept upping his bid by $100 four or five more times, and was immediately outbid by my bid. He lost the auction because he ran out of time, but the damage was already done - I ended up paying about $700 more than I would have if I had used a sniper site (because my last-minute bid wouldn't have given him time to keep pushing up the price).

So you can save a lot of money if you withhold your bid until the last second.

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Ape-X
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Response Posted - 06/15/2012 : 04:18:23

Thanks Doc! Good idea, though with 2 bids entered at the last second, those were likely snipes too. in THIS case, I would have been outbid regardless...Thanks for the site.

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Response Posted - 06/17/2012 : 03:58:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by RhythmDoctor
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Ape-X
 I was just reminded how interesting the eBay bidding can be....bid up to the most I was comfortable with sight unseen: hoping for a trailer that funds from parting could bring up to proper repair.....winning with <1min to go, I had to increase bid by $50, then 1sec to go, the bidding went up another $700, doubling the current bid?!!!...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Very common. Much of this is done with sniper sites. I use auctionstealer.com.

Before I used sniper sites, I once placed an aggressive bid on an expensive musical instrument that should have won the auction at a much lower value. But an inexperienced bidder kept upping his bid by $100, only to be automatically topped by my original bid. He kept upping his bid by $100 four or five more times, and was immediately outbid by my bid. He lost the auction because he ran out of time, but the damage was already done - I ended up paying about $700 more than I would have if I had used a sniper site (because my last-minute bid wouldn't have given him time to keep pushing up the price).

So you can save a lot of money if you withhold your bid until the last second.
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I don't know much about auctions so if this question sounds ignorant just shake your head and know why.

Would it have been possible for an unscroupulus seller to have another user name or possibly have a counterpart that kept upping the bid to drive up the selling price?

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Response Posted - 06/17/2012 : 06:51:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by GaryB
 
Would it have been possible for an unscroupulus seller to have another user name or possibly have a counterpart that kept upping the bid to drive up the selling price?
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Yes. Happens fairly regularly. The downside is that if they push beyond your tolerance, then they get hung out to dry with the item AND the auction fees from Ebay.

Now they reach you with a "second chance" offer saying the first buyer didn't pay, but knowing that they have already pushed you up buy $$$$ so they will recoup their losses.

When ebay first came out it was a buyer's market. Not so much anymore.

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