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blanik
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Initially Posted - 01/29/2012 : 16:20:04

I want to make a cockpit table that could be stored in the lazarette when not in use, i'm not sure about how i'm going to make it stand (a single post or fixed somehow to the pulpit) but what would be the best dimension for such a table? for those who made one, what size did you choose and are you happy with it?

1984 C25 FK/SR #4593
Lake Champlain

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 18:45:33

Probably the easiest table for the cockpit would be one that fits straddling the port and starboard cockpit seats. Stops mounted on the sides underneath would keep the table from sliding as well as centered between the seats. The benefit of this design is that it is simple requiring no pedestal and easy to store. The negative is that since the table is directly resting on the cockpit seats, it is very low and takes away seating area.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 19:17:34

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OLarryR
 Probably the easiest table for the cockpit would be one that fits straddling the port and starboard cockpit seats.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My boat came to me with a cockpit table the fits between the cockpit seats. As you stated, it limits cockpit seating area and is rather low so I might as well use the coaming top or the cockpit seat itself as the table. It's been in my basement for the last ten years, at least I think it's still there?

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 20:33:28

I haven't built one yet but I used to have a TV table with a pair of X style crisscross legs, and a snap-on tabletop. I can envision a pair of crisscross legs whose feet fit snugly into the corners of the sole up against the seat sides. The table legs and top used to fold flat, so if you measured it correctly, you could get the right table height in the cockpit, while being small enough to fit in the rope locker (dumpster). Nice thing about crisscross legs is you can sqeak your legs past the table legs if you want to move fore and aft

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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 20:53:44

I think I would go for something ready made like this:

http://www.basspro.com/Springfield-Boat-Table-Package-Oval/product/94022/142860

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=15862&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&storeId=11151&storeNum=50821&subdeptNum=50835&classNum=50836

Easy to install, easy to set up and stow away.... Less time working, more time sailing and feasting... hehehe

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blanik
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 21:28:22

interesting, i was curious about the ideal dimensions for a C25 cockpit because i needed to make a new wood panel to replace the one between the lazarette and the quarter berth, since the original one was starting to rot (actually the only wooden part of my boat that took humidity) so i had to buy a 4'X8' marine plywood and i have a big leftover so i want to make a cockpit table and a nice dedicated extension to extend the dinette to the settee to make that nice queen size bed (i already have panels but they're just placed there loosely and would sometimes flip when i try to get out of bed)

i was looking for the perfect dimension for the C25 cockpit (the low one that sits on the seats is nice but i want a "dinner" table) i want to be able to sit in front of someone else and be able to have two plates in front but without making the table so wide that we would be squeezed between it and the backrest :-/
(maybe if someone would have the exact dimensions of the cockpit floor and seats i could figure it out)

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Boomeroo
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 : 22:17:52

I use a camping table (Aluminium.)The top is a number of slats joined such that they fold onto each other and the legs fold up and it all goes away in a bag similar to camping chairs .Also it is very handy to take ashore for a picnic. http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/compact-expandable-table/54593 looks like a similar one in USA. Mine is not expandable ,and I have bent feet to fit tight in cockpit.

Regards Cockpit floor size I just measured mine But in metric .. and at the bottom as i am making a wooden grid for the "always wet & slopes the wrong way floor"
Size is 42 cm wide aft 55 cm wide f'ward and 1.90 m long . bit wider at top
Lake Champlain!! , Fantastic .. My daughter worked in Burlington VT so visited from Aus..a couple of years back Loved it .

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OLarryR
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 04:39:43

I was just searching the web for some table ideas. Teak tables are expensive and the folding ones generally have scissor legs which may not be preferable. Here is one design of a reasonable priced table with straight support legs (aluminum). Looks like a simulated wood top...hard to tell...may even be aluminum slats forming the table top. I offer it only as an idea as to perhaps making your own or these tables are not all that expensive and believe it may fit the space between the cockpit seats...or at least the legs.
http://www.go2marine.com/product/99967F/travel-chair-aluminum-folding-table-canyon-el-grande.html

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65Roses
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 10:59:19

I have made a couple different options for cockpit tables as well as modifications to the cabin. Attached is my blog (not up to date) that has photos of the modifications. If you are interested I will foward details of building them.

http://65rosesadventures.blogspot.com/

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tbosch
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 15:09:00

Since storage space is an issue we improvised and use one of the covers for the storage area under the starboard setee. We put some no-skid on the underside at the short ends and put the board across the cockpit. It is low but we have used it with 4 people in the cockpit for a casual lunch. Fits our needs and we don't have an additional item to store and it didn't cost anything!

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blanik
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 15:43:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 65Roses
 I have made a couple different options for cockpit tables as well as modifications to the cabin. Attached is my blog (not up to date) that has photos of the modifications. If you are interested I will foward details of building them.

http://65rosesadventures.blogspot.com/
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great table, looks exactly like what i want to do (although it looks a bit narrow, i'd make it a bit larger) what are it's dimensions? width, lengths and height? and how is it fixed on the traveler?

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OJ
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 16:01:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 65Roses
 http://65rosesadventures.blogspot.com/
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">So you've been to PIB . . . where do you hail from?

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 16:21:58

On our C-22, we made a cockpit table similar to, but not nearly as nice as, the one on 65 Roses above. We just used a 1x8 board, and it attached to the traveler bar with simple broom holder clips and had a leg at the front. stored below easily.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 17:28:04

my aluminum cockpit table:

folds flat:

Can store in dumpster or anywhere. Walmart, I think about $30.00.

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blanik
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 : 21:24:05

the width seems perfect, is that the table?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ozark-Trail-Folding-Table/16537239

if so it says 21" X 9"(?! folded i presume) X 28.8" high

is it perfectly square when open (21" X 21")?

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redviking
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 : 06:00:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 65Roses
 I have made a couple different options for cockpit tables as well as modifications to the cabin. Attached is my blog (not up to date) that has photos of the modifications. If you are interested I will foward details of building them.

http://65rosesadventures.blogspot.com/
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I looked at your blog. Truly the best comfort/cruising mods I have seen to date. Love the Galley mods, the companionway doors - real glass? Brave...

Cockpit table is brilliant and tre nautical!

And the snack tray also very nicely done!

sten

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 : 06:38:39

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">the width seems perfect, is that the table?
is it perfectly square when open (21" X 21")?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
That looks like the table, I've had mine several years. It's square when set up. It's large enough to hold two full size dinner plates, two salad bowls and beverages. My only complaint is that the table has plastic inserts in the ends that occasionally fall out. It's easy to set-up and take down.

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65Roses
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 : 07:02:27

Blanik, if you send me an email I will do up a drawing on how I did the table. To put it into words may not paint an appropriate picture. I also made a very simple storage tray inside the dumpster to hold the table. My email is jlane006@woh.rr.com.

OJ - we sail out of Port Clinton, our boat is will be docked at Hurl's Harbor this year. And you?

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OJ
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 : 19:19:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by 65Roses
 OJ - we sail out of Port Clinton, our boat is will be docked at Hurl's Harbor this year. And you?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Originally from Solon. Used to crew on C&C 33 and 38 out of LYC. Now moored at Davis Hollow Marina just north of Pittsburgh.

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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 : 07:35:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Davy J
 my aluminum cockpit table:

folds flat:

Can store in dumpster or anywhere. Walmart, I think about $30.00.
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Stores really well on the swim ladder.

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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 : 20:41:12

Hey 65 Roses,
All the tables look great and I love what you did with the galley. I've been contempating whether or not we can create a U there, and now I have my answer. I don't suppose you could be talked into documenting all of this and putting it on the tech tips page? I've got more projects right now than I may ever have time for but I would really like to attempt these some day.

Thanks for sharing! :)

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65Roses
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Response Posted - 02/03/2012 : 06:24:48

To All,
I will make a trip to the boat tomorrow and take dimensions and some more detailed photos of the tables and changes made to the galley and put them on the tech tips page. I have other modifications planned this spring that I will take notes on as I am doing them and post too.

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