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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  19:06:37  Show Profile  Visit Ryan L's Homepage
I appreciate all the positive feedback! Especially from people who understand what it took to get her up to speed. I think a lot of people make the mistake of buying a very inexpensive boat figuring they can fix her over time but then they end up burned out because they're always fixing and never sailing. Since sailing is part of how I make a living I was fortunate to have plenty of sailing to balance the maintenance we put into her. I'm hoping she sells to someone who is truly passionate about sailing and can appreciate what she can offer them. Then I hope they remember to wave hello to all the people trying to fix up their project boats as they sail by... ;)

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  19:08:54  Show Profile  Visit Ryan L's Homepage
Update: An offer was made and we accepted. Transaction taking place tomorrow. We are sad, but find comfort in the fact that she is going to people who will appreciate her and sail her with as much love as we did. I'll post an update tomorrow. Whoever said buying/selling are the two best days clearly did not love their boat... ;)

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TakeFive
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Response Posted - 01/29/2012 :  21:05:46  Show Profile
Great news! It's also evidence that no matter how bad the market, a boat at an attractive price and in truly pristine condition is a rare find and will get snatched up quickly.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 :  20:38:30  Show Profile
Your buyer is going to get a great boat. Congratulations on all the wonderful maintenance and the sale. Good luck with your search for a repacement.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 01/30/2012 :  22:59:09  Show Profile
Congratulations, Ryan!

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Arlington
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Response Posted - 01/31/2012 :  22:07:10  Show Profile
Ryan, any suggestions on tension settings for your standing rigging, did you use a loos gage? Did you notice any differences in being able to point as well with the Wing Keel? (Some folks indicate they can't point as well with the Wing Keel. I haven't noticed it, but I am still a novice sailor) Thanks again for sharing your improvements.
Doug

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  11:07:16  Show Profile  Visit Ryan L's Homepage
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arlington</i>
<br />Ryan, any suggestions on tension settings for your standing rigging, did you use a loos gage? Did you notice any differences in being able to point as well with the Wing Keel? (Some folks indicate they can't point as well with the Wing Keel. I haven't noticed it, but I am still a novice sailor) Thanks again for sharing your improvements.
Doug
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I tune by feel but in my opinion a gauge can be useful for getting in the right ballpark if you're just starting out. The tuning guide on this forum (in the "tips" section I think?) is excellent and you may find it a good place to start.

As for pointing, in my opinion (I don't have much experience sailing on the C25 fin keels) the wing and fin point about the same in terms of relative angle to the wind but the fin has less leeway. In other words it seems to me that when close hauled you make noticeably better VMG with the fin (assuming sail trim, weight distribution, etc are all optimal). On other points of sail it seems to me that they are about equal. In my opinion it comes down to preference. We've anchored where the shallower draft was a huge benefit but we've also motored in a few situations where we might have otherwise sailed. All in all the tradeoffs seem to equal out to me.

Other benefits of fin (especially for novice sailers) is they can be easier to un-stick if you run aground on muddy bottom. But the wings are less likely to run aground in the first place... The wings are better for trailering (so I hear), or at least maybe make it easier to get the boat on the trailer in the first place? I have never trailered at C25 so take that last thought for whatever it's worth...

I found the best VMG to weather with our fin keel was to keel the boat relatively flat (15 degrees max heel) and to make sure there was good flow over the keel. In other words, emphasize boat speed over relative angle to the wind. If you avoid pinching (except when needed to feather in overpowered situations) and you keep the boat relatively flat I think you'll get good results. Sail trim and power/depower is key for this...

I hope that helps!


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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  11:10:59  Show Profile  Visit Ryan L's Homepage
Now that she is sold I want to thank everyone who posted such kind comments regarding our boat! We worked hard to get her to the condition she is in and it feels good to have that work recognized by people who know. We've always been impressed with how outgoing and friendly most people on this forum are. When we get our new boat we will stop by the Admiralty forum and say hi.
Fair winds,
Ryan and Nicole

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  12:09:57  Show Profile
Congrats! Make sure to send the new owners over here!

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  12:46:06  Show Profile
Congrats! A beautiful vessel priced right will sell....even in this economy.

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unclmark
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Response Posted - 02/01/2012 :  21:30:01  Show Profile
Hello everyone

Myself and my partners Barry and Diane are now the proud owners of this beautiful vessel. Ryan and Nicole have put so much work into this boat it is amazing. If you think it looks great in the pictures you are only are only scratching the surface. There are numerous small details that I'm sure we will still be discovering in the future.

Thanks once again for this wonderful boat. We will do our best to enjoy her as much as possible.

Mark

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  06:21:32  Show Profile
Congrats on the purchase, and welcome to the forums! Don't forget you get these forums free with your purchase. A $100k value!!!


But, feel free to join the Association.

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Ryan L
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  10:35:24  Show Profile  Visit Ryan L's Homepage
Hey Mark! Welcome to your new favorite website! Now turn off the computer and go study... ;)

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<br />Hello everyone

Myself and my partners Barry and Diane are now the proud owners of this beautiful vessel. Ryan and Nicole have put so much work into this boat it is amazing. If you think it looks great in the pictures you are only are only scratching the surface. There are numerous small details that I'm sure we will still be discovering in the future.

Thanks once again for this wonderful boat. We will do our best to enjoy her as much as possible.

Mark
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Sam001
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  12:53:09  Show Profile
My congrats and welcome as well. this is a GREAT place to enjoy your boat.

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JimGo
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Response Posted - 02/02/2012 :  14:40:24  Show Profile
Welcome Mark!

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