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hewebb
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Initially Posted - 10/19/2011 : 04:53:51

I have read a couple articles that mention the "Catalina Smile" and am wondering what it is referring to. I suspect it is something in the hull. I have inspected my boat for something that could meet that definition but have not found anything. My boat is a 1988 C25 wing keel w/inboard diesel.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 05:08:56

OK I'll go.. Non Technical..

Your keel connects to the boat on the bottom. If your keel bolts are loose or the area that holds the bolts are compressed, the keel will lower, usually from the front, indicating a possible collision with something when moving forward, and a straight crack opens between the keel and the hull, wider in front.

I've never seen one. Although my Catalina seems to be smiling all the time.

Edited by - redeye on 10/19/2011 05:18:41

dlucier
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 05:32:08

It's a crack that sometimes develops around the leading edge of the keel joint at the stub.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 05:32:37

Wow.. really.. a Stearman maybe?

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hewebb
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 05:46:25

Thanks Guys-guess I am OK as there are no cracks.

redeye, N2S #33 out of LNC. I give rides on Saturdays, for a fee. Money goes to a museum. I just volunteer to fly it.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 05:48:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 . . . or the area that holds the bolts are compressed . . . <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> . . . often a result of wood becoming wet, rotted . . .

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 08:41:58

Sweet..

This is one of my bosses new rides.. made it himself.. always a great inspiration when I think I'm having a hard time making something work properly. He's been a great help to me.
Talk about depending on your workmanship. Gives a whole new meaning to shipshape...

Sounds like you are from the same mold.. Havin a good look at that boat are ya..

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redeye
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 09:04:40

The Yellow Peril .. we get a lot of traffic over Lake Lanier.. got one to dive bomb us one morning early ...What a Hoot.. I don't think I'll ever forget the sound.

Enjoy the Sail...

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 10/19/2011 : 18:58:35

I think the idea that this crack develops due to a hit or a weakened core isn't always right. Nor is the crack limited to the C-25, or even Catalinas. From what I have heard Catalina was the first to recognize the problem and offer a fix for it (as outlined above) and so the crack got teh dubious recognition as a Catalina problem. A number of possible causes have been quoted in various places, but waht matters is that it doesn't always point to catastrophic damage to a hull when the smile shows up, and often the fix is simply some scraping followed by putty and paint.

Certainly have a surveyor look over the boat if you are concerned, but there is a very high probability that he smile is not a fatal flaw.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 10/23/2011 : 09:27:26

The "Catalina Smile" is also something that happens to your face when you go out....

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 10/23/2011 : 16:23:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 The "Catalina Smile" is also something that happens to your face when you go out....
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I had that smile Friday night and yesterday.

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