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davidbloodworth
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Initially Posted - 06/06/2011 : 16:02:06

Here is my dilemma. I own a '84 C25 TR/FK that is on a trailer 60 miles from my house at the top of a boat ramp mast up in West Texas. I have to have a 15ft extension on my trailer to float the boat. Not a huge issue. The closest lake to rent a slip is 41/2 hours away. It has taken over 2 hours to get my boat back on my trailer at times. I have just redone my trailer to guide the keel on and I think I can fix the other problem to speed up the trailering process. I am looking for some input... Rent a slip 41/2 hours away or fix my trailer issues and live with where it is. Needless to say there is plenty of wind here. Eagle Mountain Lake outside of Ft Worth is about my best closest option.
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David B.

David B.
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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 17:03:11

Spend 2 X 4.5 hours to fix trailer issues, spend less time driving, spend less money on gas, spend more time sailing . . .

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 17:12:32

I may not be the best person to chime in on this subject, I live on the water and my boat is docked in my back yard, but why does it take two hours to get the boat on the trailer?

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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 17:54:40

The C-25 fin keel model is really not a "trailer boat" unless you can have it lifted in and out. I loved mine, but it lived in a slip.

4-1/2 hours each way is too far... Maybe you should think about a different boat. But I, too, wonder why retrieving takes two hours when you're leaving the mast up.

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Prospector
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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 17:58:22

I think that "up to 2 hours at times" is a worst case scenario. Sounds to me that if you are already using outliers as your decision point, your mind was made up before you posted the question and you are asking for reassurance rather than an evaluation of the options. In which case, go with what your gut is saying.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 18:20:34

I'm at Harbor One on Eagle Mountain. There are several slips open next to me. You should be able to score one for $155 a month. I'm 37 minutes from the marina and go out there several times a week. I'll put an eye on your boat for you while I'm out there.

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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:04:40

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Sounds to me that if you are already using outliers as your decision point, your mind was made up before you posted the question and you are asking for reassurance<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Jean-Paul Sartre, the French Existentialist philosopher, said "your decision has been made when you choose whom to seek for consul."

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 06/06/2011 : 20:52:00

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Jean-Paul Sartre, the French Existentialist philosopher, said <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Edie Brickell says philosophy is the talk on a cereal box.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGjh6duUPXc

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 06/07/2011 : 09:38:09

You are correct that my boat is not really made to be trailered and that is the main issue with the time frame to get it back on the trailer. There is no stop or winch on the bow end of my trailer. There is a block(about 12 inches tall)on the bottom of the trailer that is supposed to stop the keel but if you get the trailer too deep it will float over that block. The trailer has to be in the water just right to get the keel where it needs to be with that block and the boat on the pads. I think if I fix the keel block issue it won't take 2 hours to get it loaded. I fixed the issue with getting the keel lined up and that works well. Currently the lake it is at will not allow you to leave a boat in the water for an extended period of time..I am working on that angle. When you live in Texas you get used to driving 4 hours for fun so there is a part of me that says it would be nice to have it in the water.
Thanks for your input. This is a great source of knowledge.
I've only been sailing since July of last year.
Scott we may need to talk. I looked at Eagle Mtn last weekend.
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redeye
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Response Posted - 06/07/2011 : 10:28:54

I'd ask for ideas on how to make that trailer self loading. We load a 22 ft HEAVY power boat and it loads easy.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/07/2011 : 10:30:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by davidbloodworth
When you live in Texas you get used to driving 4 hours for fun

Scott we may need to talk. I looked at Eagle Mtn last weekend.

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Depends on where you live in Texas....you can drive up to 18 hours and still be in the state! But yeah, we're used to long drives....it's a big place and we have lots of space.

Drop me a line when you want to check out Harbor One. I'll take ya out on the lake and you can see if you like it.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/07/2011 : 13:45:22

Man, if I had to drive 4 hours to go sailing I'm afraid I wouldn't sail much. If I lived near a lake where I could sail BUT I couldn't leave the boat there I'd get a different boat, period, some nice little easy to rig and launch trailer sailor.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 06/08/2011 : 05:29:14

The nice thing about driving some distance to go sailing, is that you really are on vacation. Those who have their boats real close to their homes may go out more frequently, but never for as long....

sten

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davidbloodworth
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Response Posted - 06/08/2011 : 07:00:49

I appreciate all of the input. I did not put in the post that I actually own 3 sailboats. I have an 18 ft dinghy and a dolphin sr as well as my C25 so I have other sailing options. I bought the C25 basically as a camper on water. I think I have decided to try and fix my trailer issue and ease the burden of putting it back on and if I can't then I will rent a slip even if it is 4 hours away.
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Justincase
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Response Posted - 06/08/2011 : 11:27:37

I drive 3.5 hours to our lake, we have an trailer at a campground and keep the boat in the water. We go every weekend.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/08/2011 : 13:59:41

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Justincase
 I drive 3.5 hours to our lake, we have an trailer at a campground and keep the boat in the water. We go every weekend.
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That sounds awesome. I'm spoiled by being within 15 minutes of my boat from either work or home and pretty much we sleep on her every Friday night. I have to drive past my marina on the way home which is nice.

Today after work I'm crewing on a C-27 for Wednesday Night Races, while I'm there I'm dropping off a new Visa 268 Deluxe Portable Toilet and checking my main sail slugs for the sail loft. Tonight should be fun, we're grilling and having craft beer night after the races.

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OJ
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Response Posted - 06/08/2011 : 14:47:19

It's interesting how many people from Pittsburgh have larger sailboats on the Chesapeake, ~4.5 hours away.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/09/2011 : 08:00:56

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by OJ
 It's interesting how many people from Pittsburgh have larger sailboats on the Chesapeake, ~4.5 hours away.
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If was only 4.5 hours from the Chesapeake, I'd have a boat there too....

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 06/09/2011 : 08:02:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777

Today after work I'm crewing on a C-27 for Wednesday Night Races, while I'm there I'm dropping off a new Visa 268 Deluxe Portable Toilet and checking my main sail slugs for the sail loft. Tonight should be fun, we're grilling and having craft beer night after the races.

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 06/09/2011 : 08:40:20

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777

Today after work I'm crewing on a C-27 for Wednesday Night Races, while I'm there I'm dropping off a new Visa 268 Deluxe Portable Toilet and checking my main sail slugs for the sail loft. Tonight should be fun, we're grilling and having craft beer night after the races.

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You guys have too much fun....I wish there was a fun community like that at Harbor One....on Eagle Mountain, I'll have to join the Fort Worth Boat Club to get it.

I'm trying to budget it for next year.....
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When you going to come out, I'm less than four hours away and I still want those light fixtures...

Yeah I love our dock. We are the only all sailboat dock at Bayview Marina and I know just about everybody. "R" Dock is awesome.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 06/09/2011 : 08:50:39

I have a swing keel boat and a fin keel trailer, but my trailer has a keel guide, bow stop, and winch stand. So I don't have your problem, except needing deep water. Perhaps you could fashion a bow harness with a small bumper or something similar as a float, set so it would stop the boat in the correct fore & aft position. As you float onto the trailer, crew on the bow picks up the harness with a boat hook, or someone in the water slips it over the bow. The harness would be a length of 3/8" line secured to each side of the trailer. Near the midpoint of the line would be 2 additional loops set so that they could be easily slipped over the bow cleats. Just thinking out loud!

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