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jhinton
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Initially Posted - 02/05/2011 :  17:09:29  Show Profile
Has anybody put in an anchor and mooring ball of their own? Looking into the mushroom anchors that are used for these systems it looks like one in the 250-350 pound range is what is needed for a C-25.

If anyone has done this, what type and size of mooring anchor did you use?
1982 C-25, SK/SR, traditional interior
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/05/2011 :  21:22:02  Show Profile
Mushrooms with round bottoms take a long time to settle in without assistance, but there are conical ones designed specifically to penetrate as moorings. If you are planning on dropping it yourself you you need lots of power to drag round ones to start the process (I was looking into doing this a few decades ago). If you have a mud bottom, you could just drop it in the fall and probably be in good shape the next year. I ended up not doing it, so my opinion is worth what you paid for it.
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jhinton
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Response Posted - 02/06/2011 :  07:03:32  Show Profile
Good to know. I do appreciate your opinion. Thanks.
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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/06/2011 :  07:13:19  Show Profile
Our marina pulled and replaced the mushrooms every year. They put smaller boats on them at first to help work in the anchors. What's your bottom? Who's your closest expert installer. IMHO, not a do it yourselfer the first time.

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Response Posted - 02/06/2011 :  10:09:18  Show Profile
Your bottom conditions are a big factor in the answer. I would track down the people who set and maintain moorings in your area, have them give you a quote, look over their specs, and decide whether you can handle it. Generally it requires a small purpose-built, barge-like vessel with a winch. I wouldn't want to be trying to roll a 300# mushroom out of a little boat (or a C-25 cockpit).

BTW, some harbors don't allow new mushrooms any more--too many derelict iron spikes sticking up at low tide... They want helical (screw-in) or "pyramid" anchors.
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/06/2011 :  19:09:05  Show Profile
Helicals are expensive, but definitely the class of the bunch.
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/07/2011 :  10:25:11  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
I insalled a new mooring two years ago. I used three 80 lb storm grates, or storm drains. I bolted them together and added 50 ft of chain in 18 ft of water. Hasn't moved an inch.

If I remember correctly the total cost was about $400. I bought the grates at a metal scrap yard.
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jhinton
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Response Posted - 02/07/2011 :  10:39:24  Show Profile
Creative. And 250 pounds has held solidly? What type of bottom is it in?
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/09/2011 :  11:18:10  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
All sand bottom. I expect it's buried by now.

I should also add that I have a 25 foot painter (mooring line). The total with 50' of chain is more than adequate in 18 ft of water.
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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 02/09/2011 :  17:10:16  Show Profile
What did you use to bolt the grates together?
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 02/10/2011 :  16:21:32  Show Profile  Visit aeckhart's Homepage
The largest bolts that would fit in the gaps - I believe 5/8" x 10". The chain is 10' x 5/8" chain with the remainder 3/8 or 1/2" - not sure which.
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Frank Law
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Response Posted - 02/16/2011 :  14:14:33  Show Profile
" About Time" is swinging on a homemade mushroom anchor. Using 1 80# bag of ready crete and a 1 1/2" shaft I rounded out a mushroom shape in the dirt lined it with plastic suspended the shaft above it ( with a " J Hook " at the bottom.. This rig has held up for 10 years using 15 feet of 5/16 ' chain and 1/2' line.. The depth is only 5' going down to 2 1/2 ' with the tide ,, the bottom is Chesapeake mud . It did hold against a 6' tidal surge when Hurricane Isabel came up the bay...

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 02/16/2011 :  16:15:15  Show Profile
Mud and muck is very forgiving, creating suction when you try to pull something out to quickly, but 80 lbs of concrete only weighs about 45 lbs under water.
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jhinton
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Response Posted - 02/16/2011 :  17:15:14  Show Profile
I'm surprised you only have 80 pounds but that's a great idea!
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 02/17/2011 :  12:55:50  Show Profile
Around the Chesapeake Bay, the various counties have different regulations for installation of a mooring. In some you need waterfront property, while in others anyone can have a mooring installed.

There are services that do this for boaters around the Bay.

The newer helical (screw-in) mooring anchors apparently have significantly higher holding power compared to the traditional mushroom-type mooring anchors.

Why would I want a mooring? To save money!

But I couldn't find an available mooring site with sailing nearby as nice as my current marina gives me. I could perhaps save money, but be miserable motoring for hours out of a creek to go sailing. My marina is about 200 yards from a mile-wide river, and that can't be beat. YMMV.
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