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Ben
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Initially Posted - 04/08/2010 : 08:52:51

Hi all,

After doing some research I wanted confirmation on lengths before I cut the lines.

For my standard rig, I'm going with 66 feet of Vectram VPC 8mm (5/16th inche) for the jib halyard, and 75 feet of Vectram VPC 8mm for the jib sheet.

Can anyone confirm that those are the right lengths? I looked on the manual section of the site, but it was not 100% clear. I have all-rope halyards, and it seemed like the manual assumed everyone has the stainless steel cable/rope halyard configuration.

Thanks!

Ben
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jerlim
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Response Posted - 04/08/2010 : 09:03:34

When I replaced our lines, I bought them all a little long and trimmed them on-site. You can also extend the usefulness of halyards, by installing new lines a few feet long. After a few seasons, trim off the worn end at the headboard.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 04/08/2010 : 17:10:22

Odd, but I replied to this post earlier today. 8mm hard finish line is a little hard on the hands for sheets; I use slightly larger Stayset, but the length should be plenty if that is the line you want. The halyard should be adequate, but jerlim makes a good point - its easier to shorten a line than lengthen it.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/08/2010 : 20:03:15

For halyards, it also depends on whether you are leading them back. For jib sheets, it depends somewhat on the size of the jib. (A larger jib needs a longer sheet to lead around the mast to the windward side.)

I too wonder about your choice for sheets. 3/8" single-braid is awfully nice on the hands, and you don't need super-low-stretch.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 04/09/2010 : 04:28:13

I thought it best to use as small a line as possible for the halyard (1/4 or the 8mm?) so that it would run well in the sheeves at the masthead as they were set up for wire. I still need to change out my sheeves for line, which has a little larger "groove" in the sheave. With the wire sheeves I'm probably getting excessive wear on the line as the line is just a little larger diameter than the sheeve. I think the wire sheave is set for wire which is close to 1/4in line.

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=34&ParentCat=407

The line sheave is scored for 5/16 line.

Sooo....the halyard line needs to fit the sheeve, even thought it is harder on the hands.

I LOVE big soft fuzzy line on the sheets, so I'm always looking for bigger line on the sheets, even though if you get too big the weight gets excessive. It starts laying on the fantail seats like a big wet snake...

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jerlim
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Response Posted - 04/09/2010 : 04:53:00

one other comment...I prefer to cross sheet the genny sheets (making them fast to the windward cleat), as I usually single hand, so when replacing those sheets, they needed a bit of extra length as well...

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 04/09/2010 : 06:21:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redeye
 ...I LOVE big soft fuzzy line on the sheets, so I'm always looking for bigger line on the sheets, even though if you get too big the weight gets excessive...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Check out single-braid--it's not as heavy, textured but soft on the hands, and coils nicely.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 04/09/2010 : 07:23:53

Thanks All. My thought on the thinner line for the jib sheet is due to weight. I get a lot of light wind days when I'm flying my 150. My existing sheet is pretty thick and I notice it weighing down the 150 sometimes. In heavier wind or on days when I fly my 130 I would continue to use my thicker sheet. I'll look at single braid though, as recommended by Dave Bristle, for weight consideration.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 04/11/2010 : 20:22:06

For jib sheet line, check out 8mm BZZZ line. I love it, single braid, light weight but strong, easy on the hands, runs easily through blocks, doesn't kink. Got mine from Milwaukee Rigging on ebay.

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