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Ben
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Initially Posted - 03/25/2010 : 13:07:26

Hi All,

I have a WM gift certificate from Christmas burning a hole in my pocket, and with Splash Day so quickly approaching I think I'm going to use it soon.

What I'm looking for is a longer piece that threads into the bottom end of the turnbuckle for the forestay and subsequently attaches to the front of the boat. I have an adjustable back-stay, but not enough play in the forestay turnbuckle to loosen the forestay enough to rake the mast back. At least that's my understanding of my problem based on previous posts.

Any ideas? I can't remember what the darned thing is called.

Thanks all!

Ben
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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 13:40:26

T-bolt and toggle, specify R or L handed thread

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islander
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 14:09:31

Or I think you can just add a longer toggle.

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Happy D
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 14:53:53

The mast isn't supposed to be raked on a C25 is it? That might be the problem.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 17:28:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Happy D
 The mast isn't supposed to be raked on a C25 is it? That might be the problem.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Yup--about 5-8". My forestay was too short and the non-split backstay was too long for that, so I had an annoying (to me) neutral-to-lee helm. I had the backstay shortened and put a longer toggle on the forestay, raked the mast back, and got a nice, light weather helm. But I greatly prefer that to a "squirmy tiller", for feel and for safety. YMMV.

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Ben
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 19:16:22

Thanks for the replies. Maybe my terminology isn't right. But the other thread where JimB described sail trim is what got me thinking, and of course the post from Steve Milby about mast tuning, and I thought I remember them talking about pulling down on the backstay adjuster which would then rake(?) the mast.

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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 19:46:49

No, hardening the backstay bends the mast, which is something you do to depower the mainsail, and to harden the jib luff so you can sail closer to the wind. Your adjustable backstay should be loose at the dock, to let the mast and rigging relax. If the mast is raked, it's raked with the backstay "unadjusted."

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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 20:38:35

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave Bristle
Yup--about 5-8". My forestay was too short and the non-split backstay was too long for that, so I had an annoying (to me) neutral-to-lee helm. I had the backstay shortened and put a longer toggle on the forestay, raked the mast back, and got a nice, light weather helm. But I greatly prefer that to a "squirmy tiller", for feel and for safety. YMMV.
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Dave, I have the exact same problem. What did you use for a longer toggle?

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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 03/25/2010 : 21:50:11

#279234 West Marine toggle.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 03/26/2010 : 07:08:24

There are cast ones and stamped ones. I used them on both boats.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 03/26/2010 : 07:18:32

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by skrenz
 Dave, I have the exact same problem. What did you use for a longer toggle?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Sorry--I don't remember the details, and Bruce Ross has the boat now. I did this in conjunction with a rigger (who shortened the backstay), and he might have supplied part--actually it may have been a longer T-bolt for the bottom of the turnbuckle.

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