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what light bulbs are on the mast?

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willyd103
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Initially Posted - 02/23/2010 : 16:19:53

Folks:
I know that the snow will be disappearing soon here in Massachusetts.. I want to
order the replacement bulbs for the steaming light and anchor light. I did a search on both lights on the forum and I didn't see anything that jumped out at me. The Catalina owners manual didn't have the specifics either and Stardust is not accessible right now.
Has anyone got a recommendation for a LED replacement?
As an FYI, the West Marine catalog has light bulb tables on pages 459 and 460.

Will Dawson
S/V Stardust
C250 #215
wishing I were sailing on
Quincy Bay, MA

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 02/23/2010 : 16:57:53

have you tried Catalina Direct? http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=151

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islander
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Response Posted - 02/23/2010 : 19:52:44

If its the 44mm festoon bulb used in the Aqua Signal 25 series then this is the L.E.D replacement http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44B3W.html
this is from our Assoc Members Area. Look for Assoc Members Discount then Mastlight.com They give members a 20% discount.

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willyd103
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Response Posted - 03/04/2010 : 09:49:52

So, after doing some searching, I found the following:

Here’s information on various lights from Kent Nelson at Catalina Yachts:
82 to 10/7/97 Anchor light -- Aqua Signal US Part # 25000-1, Bulb 90200-1
82 to 10/8/97 Combo light -- Aqua Signal US Part #25404-1, Bulb Deck 90470-1 (Halogen), Bulb Steaming 90200-1
82 to 10/27/97 Stern Light C 22 - 36 -- Aqua Signal US Part #25500-1, Bulb 90200-1
82 to 10/27/98 Bow light C 22 -36 -- Aqua Signal US Part #25100-1, Bulb 90200-1

So - all navigating lights use the 90200-1 which is a “Barrel” type bulb measuring 1 7/8” in length and 7/16” diameter. It is a 12V 10W Special Festoon type bulb with visibility of 2 nautical miles.
See the bulb chart at http://www.aquasignal.info/aquasignal_us/files/content/series_bulbs.pdf?id=204

You can buy two for $13.59 at http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=16262F
See also http://www.shipstore.com/SS/HTML/ASL/ASL902007.html

Suppose you want a LED instead?
Part number 8001566 is a White Festoon Star and has a price of $49.99 at
http://www.doctorled.com/crossref.htm .
From the web site:
“These LED bulbs are specially designed as direct replacements for most festoon incandescent navigation light bulbs, available on the market such as those from Aqua Signal®, Hella® (3562 series), Lalizas®, Perko®, and several other manufacturers. These high-quality high-flux LED bulbs are the perfect way to reduce energy consumption on your boat with a current draw of only about 0.1A. They are especially well-suited for mast mounted lights, as their incredible reliability will mean an end to frequent climbs up the mast to replace nav light bulbs. “

Part # T10X44P3W has 15 white LEDs and sells for $25 at
http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44P3W.html Note that Scott informed
us there’s a 20% discount for forum members
From the web site:
“This bulb has 2 ends that are "Barrel" type that will fit in the model 25 Aqua Signal fixture. Use this color for the Anchor and stern light only. “
I noticed that this bulb appears to be 1/8” shorter than the standard bulb

Here’s some reference material I copied from a forum email by Bruce Ross
http://www.ledshoponline.com/automotive_leds_festoon.htm
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR&keywords=&cart_id=7129925.23479&next=50
Here's a good comparison on brightness of LEDs versus other lighting options
http://www.marinebeam.com/coouinlu.html

And, of course, deal extreme:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17907
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For the Combo Deck light : The 90470 is a Halogen BA9s 12V 20W bulb measuring
1 3/16” long and has a diameter of 3/8”

It costs $12.95 for part number 40-90400470 at
http://www.marineparts.com/kel/kel349.aspx

$12.99 at http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/light-bulb-12v-20w-halogn-series-3106-102104/4,41221.html

To confirm your deck socket wiring just open up the electrical panel box
and note the color of the wire from each of the labelled rocker switches. The
“Deck” column below is what I have for colors coming from each of the
switches mentioned above. The Mast Plug column is the colors I hastily
wrote down just before the snow started and will be validating these pin
assignments the first week in April. Looking down on the socket with the
"V" at the 12 o'clock position, pin 1 is located at 10 o'clock,
Pin 2 is at 2 o'clock, pin 3 at 4 o'clock and pin 4 at 8 o'clock.

The configuration for the connector wire colors on my boat are
Deck Mast Plug (subject to validation)
1 green ground green
2 red bow white
3 white anchor red
4 black deck black

Will Dawson
Stardust
1996 C250WK #215

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MartinJW
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Response Posted - 03/29/2010 : 19:26:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by willyd103
 So, after doing some searching, I found the following:

Here’s information on various lights from Kent Nelson at Catalina Yachts:
82 to 10/7/97 Anchor light -- Aqua Signal US Part # 25000-1, Bulb 90200-1
82 to 10/8/97 Combo light -- Aqua Signal US Part #25404-1, Bulb Deck 90470-1 (Halogen), Bulb Steaming 90200-1
82 to 10/27/97 Stern Light C 22 - 36 -- Aqua Signal US Part #25500-1, Bulb 90200-1
82 to 10/27/98 Bow light C 22 -36 -- Aqua Signal US Part #25100-1, Bulb 90200-1

So - all navigating lights use the 90200-1 which is a “Barrel” type bulb measuring 1 7/8” in length and 7/16” diameter. It is a 12V 10W Special Festoon type bulb with visibility of 2 nautical miles.
See the bulb chart at http://www.aquasignal.info/aquasignal_us/files/content/series_bulbs.pdf?id=204

You can buy two for $13.59 at http://www.go2marine.com/product.do?no=16262F
See also http://www.shipstore.com/SS/HTML/ASL/ASL902007.html

Suppose you want a LED instead?
Part number 8001566 is a White Festoon Star and has a price of $49.99 at
http://www.doctorled.com/crossref.htm .
From the web site:
“These LED bulbs are specially designed as direct replacements for most festoon incandescent navigation light bulbs, available on the market such as those from Aqua Signal®, Hella® (3562 series), Lalizas®, Perko®, and several other manufacturers. These high-quality high-flux LED bulbs are the perfect way to reduce energy consumption on your boat with a current draw of only about 0.1A. They are especially well-suited for mast mounted lights, as their incredible reliability will mean an end to frequent climbs up the mast to replace nav light bulbs. “

Part # T10X44P3W has 15 white LEDs and sells for $25 at
http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44P3W.html Note that Scott informed
us there’s a 20% discount for forum members
From the web site:
“This bulb has 2 ends that are "Barrel" type that will fit in the model 25 Aqua Signal fixture. Use this color for the Anchor and stern light only. “
I noticed that this bulb appears to be 1/8” shorter than the standard bulb

Here’s some reference material I copied from a forum email by Bruce Ross
http://www.ledshoponline.com/automotive_leds_festoon.htm
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR&keywords=&cart_id=7129925.23479&next=50
Here's a good comparison on brightness of LEDs versus other lighting options
http://www.marinebeam.com/coouinlu.html

And, of course, deal extreme:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17907
------
For the Combo Deck light : The 90470 is a Halogen BA9s 12V 20W bulb measuring
1 3/16” long and has a diameter of 3/8”

It costs $12.95 for part number 40-90400470 at
http://www.marineparts.com/kel/kel349.aspx

$12.99 at http://store.hamiltonmarine.com/browse.cfm/light-bulb-12v-20w-halogn-series-3106-102104/4,41221.html

To confirm your deck socket wiring just open up the electrical panel box
and note the color of the wire from each of the labelled rocker switches. The
“Deck” column below is what I have for colors coming from each of the
switches mentioned above. The Mast Plug column is the colors I hastily
wrote down just before the snow started and will be validating these pin
assignments the first week in April. Looking down on the socket with the
"V" at the 12 o'clock position, pin 1 is located at 10 o'clock,
Pin 2 is at 2 o'clock, pin 3 at 4 o'clock and pin 4 at 8 o'clock.

The configuration for the connector wire colors on my boat are
Deck Mast Plug (subject to validation)
1 green ground green
2 red bow white
3 white anchor red
4 black deck black

Will Dawson
Stardust
1996 C250WK #215
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

THANKS, Will, for putting all this together.

Can anyone confirm that all this is applicable to later model C-250s?

Martin

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C25OBrien
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Response Posted - 03/31/2010 : 07:32:44

This is just what I am looking for.
Can anyone confirm if the below light does in fact fit in the original anchor light location? (I'm concerned about that missing 1/8")
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Part # T10X44P3W has 15 white LEDs and sells for $25 at
http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44P3W.html

“This bulb has 2 ends that are "Barrel" type that will fit in the model 25 Aqua Signal fixture. Use this color for the Anchor and stern light only. “
I noticed that this bulb appears to be 1/8” shorter than the standard bulb
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Also, why would you not want to use this bulb in the steaming light location?

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willyd103
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Response Posted - 04/01/2010 : 07:26:45

Chris:
The measurements listed at the Aqua Signal site says 1 and 7/8 inches long for their bulb
( http://www.aquasignal.info/aquasignal_us/files/content/series_bulbs.pdf?id=204) while
at Mastlight (http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44P3W.html ) the length measurement is 1 and 3/4 inches.

I've got a brand new Series 25 bi-color nav light from Aqua Signal and took it apart. I measured the bulb and it's 1 and 3/4 inches! I saw that there's a dimple on the bottom of the metal band at each end of the bulb that fits into the bump built into the "socket".

I'm ordering two bulbs today from Masthead and plan to install them after tax day. I'm
95 % sure they'll work but will report back here when I plug 'em in.

..... and yes I gently "touched" a piling with my bow light ;o)

Will Dawson
Stardust
1996 C250WK #215
....afloat in 26 days!

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willyd103
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Response Posted - 04/01/2010 : 07:50:45

Chris:
I called the number on the Masthead.com site. Please note he has changed the notation to
"Use this color for the Anchor, Steaming and stern light only. " You can't use the white LED on any color lens because it will wash out the color.

Will Dawson
Stardust
1996 C250WK #215
....afloat in 26 days!

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willyd103
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Response Posted - 04/24/2010 : 06:38:11

The weather here in the Boston was perfect for applying bottom paint and checking out all the stuff on the mast!

Please note that the right bulb to get is http://www.mastlight.com/Products/T10X44B3W.html

I rang out the wires in the mast:
Black = Ground
Red = Anchor light
White = Steaming
Green = Deck

-Will Dawson

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Tradewind
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Response Posted - 05/24/2010 : 16:08:34

I removed the anchor light today to replace it and clean connections, there is a black wire which I assume is the ground and a white wire I assume is positive.

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willyd103
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Response Posted - 05/25/2010 : 05:15:02

Steve:
You're right. The plus end goes on top.
Will
C250 SR #215
Shakedown cruise today in Hingham Bay

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