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Scott121
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Initially Posted - 02/23/2010 : 15:55:41

Are there any Capri 25s planning to race at the Nationals in San Diego this year? I could crew on my buddy's Catalina 30 or race my Capri. It kind of depends if there is actually going to be a Capri 25 class.

Scott
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JimB517
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Response Posted - 02/23/2010 : 18:16:31

Right now I would love to see some Capris enter. So far, you are the only one. I have 3 Catalina 25s (maybe) and you (maybe).

I am planning on one combined start but we may have a couple of classees and score independant.

Where are you in Mission Bay? Catalina 25 Fleet 7 is in Marina Village.

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Scott121
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Response Posted - 02/25/2010 : 16:20:26

Hey Jim,
We have actually met before. At Silver Gate YC after a race about a year ago. I sail with Steve Roeber (Catalina 30 "Misbehave II"). My Capri is at Mission Bay YC.

Scott

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MPienta
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Response Posted - 04/18/2010 : 09:42:13

Hello Jim,

I have a Capri 25 that I'm considering racing in the nationals and it has a 155 Carbon Jib. The rules state a six second penalty/mile for a "Mylar jib". Will this apply to any boat using Carbon sails?

Thanks for your time.

Michael

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/19/2010 : 09:44:38

At this point, I am planning straight up PHRF Southern CA rules for the event.

C 25 Standard Rig 228
C 25 Tall Rig 222
Capri 25 174
C 250 Tall Rig ?
C 250 Standard Rig ?

There will not be penalties for being properly equipped for racing.

Boats with a valid 2010 PHRF certificate will not be measured.

HOWEVER

Once we get closer to the event I expect to poll the people entered to see if we want a "cruising class". If so, that class will use adjustments. We will need enough boats to justify a cruising class.

Capris and Catalinas will have a combined start, but will be scored seperately.

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/19/2010 : 09:45:31

By the way we are up to about 6 Catalinas who have verbally committed and we have a local Capri who will come out to play if some of you guys join up!

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MPienta
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Response Posted - 04/22/2010 : 20:02:36

Jim, thanks for the reply. I'm in the process of obtaining a So Cal PHRF Certificate and hope to enter the Nationals.

Regards,

Michael

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jbkayaker
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 15:57:16

If all the racers are from California and a few nearby states and the total number is small it is not really a national championship.

To kick off a discussion here are my ideas on the subject. Given that transporting 25 foot boats across the country is prohibitively expensive, a better approach would be to have 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place regional championship winners come together and compete without the necessity of bringing their own boats. The host of a national championship should provide a reasonable number of boats to be raced by persons residing more than a few hundred miles from the venue. Skippers from other regions would be required to use their own sails and to provide a bond or insurance to cover any damages.

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MPienta
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 16:27:57

Is transporting a 25 ft sailboat across country prohibitively expensive and where is this "holy grail" of thirty year old "rental" Capri 25's in race condition????????

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 16:49:55

Last year only 3 boats raced in the "Nationals". There were no Capris and I think only Cat 250s raced. It is indeed a National Championship, because it is sanctioned by this body. However, in my belief, it is dying out. This could be the last one.

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Peregrine
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 17:24:38

PLEASE!!!
Do not feel the "Nationals" are dying out.
We aready have one bid for 2011 and hope to have more.
It is up to the officers to find hosts who will work to include all the classes and make sure that as many members as possible can participate.
We are accepting "Regional" bids and doing everything we can to to keep racing alive for all that want to compete.

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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 18:35:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MPienta
 Is transporting a 25 ft sailboat across country prohibitively expensive and where is this "holy grail" of thirty year old "rental" Capri 25's in race condition????????<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">I've seen rental C-250s in San Deigo, with light blue and white striped sails to identify them. I wouldn't call them "in race condition," but how many C-250s are?

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MPienta
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Response Posted - 04/26/2010 : 20:13:08

Are the Capri 25 sails that He is bringing going to work with the rental C-250? My point being if you're going to take the Catalina Nationals "seriously" You need to bring your own boat and that it's an impossibility for the Catalina Association to provide "equal" rental boats. They just don't exist. The cost of flying five crew out from the East Coast and renting a "race" boat will be comparable to the expense of trailering the boat to SD and back home.

I would bet that there is probably someone on the West Coast who would let you borrow/rent their boat for the Nationals, if You asked.

My priorities for the Nationals are having fun with "like-minded" people, enjoying San Diego in September, and making the rest of you guys look good while I'm probably sailing at the back of the pack. It's unfortunate that sailing can be expensive. Especially when a new headsail costs half of the present value of my boat. At least we're all in the same "boat".

Michael

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 04/27/2010 : 09:28:55

Capri 25 sails will not fit on a rental 250, nor on a 25.

I have a couple of C25s that could be loaned out. Not race prepped, won't stand much of a change against me and Steve (coming from Folsom Lake) with race prepped boats.

HOWEVER -

Its at least 50% the person driving / tactician and 50% boat. You never know.

Come and have some fun.

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