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Bortiquai
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Initially Posted - 02/11/2010 :  06:50:41  Show Profile
What is the proper way to attach a Topping Lift to the mast head? Knot? Shackle? To the same pin as the backstay?

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Matt
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  08:54:54  Show Profile
You are free to do it any way that you like, including a sheave and run it back on your cabintop to a cleat.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  09:12:25  Show Profile
Mine had an eye-splice and shared the clevis pin with the backstay. A simple bowline would work, but would look less elegant. Frank's idea would allow you to raise and lower the boom from the cabintop, but leaves one more line to slap against the mast. I rigged a little jam-cleat-block at the boom-end for adjusting while in the slip or at anchor. Maybe "Voyager" Bruce has a picture that shows it (if he kept it that way). I got the idea from sailing with Jim Baumgart.
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Bortiquai
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  09:25:48  Show Profile
Ok, that is good. Thanks for the replies.

I'll probably bowline it, unless I find a small shackle I like. I'm not going to take the mast down to do this, so taking the pin out to slip an eye-splice through isn't an option. A shackle maybe, but i'd probably have to tie a bowline to the shackle so what's the point?

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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  09:43:35  Show Profile
As a racer, I wanted minimum weight and windage aloft, so I used about 3/16" nylon line, and tied it to the pin at the masthead without any hardware. As I recall, I didn't tie it to the same pin as the backstay. I believe I tied it to the other pin, but I don't remember for sure. The thin, nylon topping lift line stretched fairly easily, and that came in handy occasionally, when I either got too busy to adjust the topping lift, or simply forgot to. The topping lift line doesn't have to be able to hold alot of weight - just the weight of the boom. My line was fixed at the top of the mast, then came down to a small snatchblock on the end of the boom, and then turned and headed back up towards the masthead for about 12". I had it rigged with a small, plastic clam cleat, not attached to the boom, but "threaded" into the line itself, so that, if I wanted to adjust the topping lift, I could simply reach up overhead and grab it with one hand and adjust it as much as necessary.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  11:20:54  Show Profile
The little block I used was this [url="http://www.harkenstore.com/uniface.urd/scpdinw1.ShowProd?B4RPMEB9Y994S4"]"Micro" from Harken[/url]. The nice thing about it is the V-groove in the side, which is a built-in jam-cleat. Very handy, especially with a stopper-knot at the lowest position (where the TL goes slack when the raised sail holds the boom) so the boom can't fall even if you fumble. It takes a 1/4" line max.
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Voyager
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Response Posted - 02/11/2010 :  21:27:39  Show Profile
I use the topping lift exactly as Dave mentioned.

If I've got some tall people in the cockpit with the main furled down to the boom, I will raise the boom end using the topping lift.

When I'm sailing, I release the topping lift to its lowest point, so the sail countering the mainsheet determines the height of the boom.

The Vee jam cleat allows you to adjust it exactly as you want it, very quickly. It's an ideal solution.

On my daysailor, I used a block near the top of the mast to raise and lower the boom, and cleated the line off on the mast. It was less convenient than <i>Passage's</i> current setup.
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