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crcalhoon
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Initially Posted - 12/12/2008 :  15:59:49  Show Profile
Just an item of general interest. Three years ago I replaced all the teak on the outside of my boat. Paid between $13.50 and $18.00 per board foot. This is central Arkansas, by the way. Today I went to buy a piece of lumber for another job, and found that the old dealer no longer sells retail. However, they were kind enough to refer me to another place (25 miles to first place, about another 15-20 to the second) New place, nice people, great selection. I got my little piece of oak and a price list for future reference. Teak--$42.00 BF.
"So," he said, breathing deeply,"what else you got?" Well, how about english sycamore at $50.00 BF... How about I go outside and quietly have a heart attack. Turns out they have a wood called Anaroba which looks so much like teak they could be twins. The dealer says as far as he knows it is a pretty good replacement for teak, sharing some qualities of weather resistance, but it is obviously not teak. I just wonder if anybody else has heard of this stuff. It is new to me, and although I don't usually work with exotics, I thought I was pretty familiar with them.

Of course you never know how much the pricing is affected by the fact that there is not a lot of call for teak in central Arkansas, and the price might reflect the low volume of ordering. Still,. . .WHEW
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Response Posted - 12/12/2008 :  16:38:48  Show Profile  Visit Prospector's Homepage
When I was looking for some teak, I got Afrormosia, which is another teak substitute. Maybe it will work for you?
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 12/12/2008 :  16:45:42  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
And there's always Ipe (Ironwood), which weathers just like teak, is harder, and at least here on the left coast, is pretty cheap. It's super hard, will tear up your tools if you're not careful, and is a health hazard (wear a mask & eye protection, or expect about three days of hacking & coughing). Other than that, it's beautiful wood.
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/12/2008 :  17:16:20  Show Profile
Ipe is pretty nice but it's heavy.

The US has outlawed Burmese teak so the price will go to the moon.

I'm letting Randy rub off on me and my new to me Chris Craft stink pot will be decorated with stainless and plastic. Dave, I'll be joining you on the dark side.
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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 12/12/2008 :  21:10:28  Show Profile
Let's see photos of the Chris Craft! Stainless steel rules!!
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/13/2008 :  05:43:36  Show Profile
I'm afraid she's in bad condition. After 10 years sitting outside I've convinced the owner to give her to me. Looks like I'll be learning the fine art of wooden boat rebuilding. She's a mid 60's 22' Cutlass.
There's one in [url="http://www.boattrader.com/find/listing/1964-chris+craft-cutlass-88327033"]Portland[/url] that is gorgous.
These boats had lots of teak on them. I'll be using mahogany. I love working on boats.
Did you get a price for Anaroba by chance?
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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 12/13/2008 :  11:53:18  Show Profile
Anaroba is $9.00 BF at this dealer. Afromosia is $10.00
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 12/13/2008 :  12:05:22  Show Profile
Ipe (pronounced eepay, also called pao lope) is awfully hard, and tends to become rough and slightly splintery as it weathers. You can retard that by oiling or finishing it like teak, but it's not great for things you touch. Working it is like working concrete--you'll throw out saw blades and break drills. It's so dense it sinks in water. Great for decks, boardwalks, and docks--not great for boats.
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Jefffriday
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Response Posted - 12/14/2008 :  14:31:37  Show Profile
You should check out ebay, do a search for "teak Lumber" I have bought several pieces of various woods through ebay, I cannot get anything unusual at all where I am. Keep an eye on the shipping costs, some sellers hit you hard there...
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redeye
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Response Posted - 12/15/2008 :  07:22:54  Show Profile
The Rare woods guy here in Atlanta ( Carlton Rare Woods ) also suggested Anaroba to me. Their website shows the many different kinds of wood available. It it not me grandaddys world. I was kinda taken aback.

Makes me want to find sustainable wood.

http://www.rarewoodsandveneers.com/pages/woodspecimenslist.htm

his list of woods makes me feel a little sad about all the trees being cut down. We have many tree huggers here in Atlanta, me included. I still don't like using a petro chemical on a boat.
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Happy D
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Response Posted - 12/17/2008 :  06:32:59  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I still don't like using a petrochemical on a boat.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

There are a lot of petrochemicals used in making a boat. While I don't like waisting stuff, I think using some petrochemicals, like varnish, to protect a boat's wood is a much better use of PCs than to let the teak rot and then replace that with either more teak or another petrochemical material.
There are PCs used for taking care of the gelcoat and the like, but I think in the long run taking care of a boat by using the right chemicals, in the right amount, will reduce the carbon footprint dramatically.
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