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quilombo
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Initially Posted - 06/29/2008 : 08:23:49

this is for all you realistic sellers, I dont remember if I posted this before, as I am getting old a senile
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how much can I realistically get for my 78 swing keel
needs nothing has all the bells and whilstles including outboard and comes with a nice sail inventory no trailer

I am considering getting a larger boat
NY NJ area

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 10:16:41

So many variables I think it's very hard to answer.
Local area variables, not to mention the particulars of your boat.
But I think an even larger concern is the nation's economy now versus the way it was just a year ago.
I think many people are spooked by the economy, even if their own income is good.
So, does this affect selling an old boat? Hard to say. Like yourself, some want a sailboat instead of a power boat for the fuel issue.
If I wanted to sell my boat, I would price it a grand less than what it might be worth just to try to move it quicker.
You can search the web like boattrader.com or classifieds on places like trailersailor.com to get an idea what others are asking. (Not what they're getting, what they're asking.)

When I saw that you are sailing sometimes in NY harbor, I thought about the comfort of rough (relative to our boat's size) water.

What are you thinking about getting?

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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 14:56:32

It depends on your area and on how your boat is equipped. I see you're in NJ/NY area and it looks to me that C25s go for a good price there. Adds I've seen for them suggest 11K-13K range. You should realize you'll get more if your boat really is tricked out; reasonably new sails of high quality design- 1 to 2 years old, fully battened, radially woven dacron, reef points, cunningham, full roach, etc. A full inventory also would include spinnaker, pole and everything required to fly it. Extras like head, new upholstery, stove, shore power connectivitiy and electronics will help to sell it also. If it's clean and buffed out with freshly varnished brightwork, new sheets, halyards and other running rigging it will really help to catch the eye of any prospective buyer.

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 15:19:32

IMHO, the best way to price a boat is get on a couple of the many sites on the internet that have boats your size/year. Compare age, equipment, condition, geographical location, etc and price it based on those comparisons.

If it does not sell...lower the price, that always works.

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 15:39:11

im thinking about 6-8k
would be a fair price,its a turn key boat

so to speak,

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 16:47:34

I'd say 8K is high for a '78 swinger with no trailer. 6K might be about as much as you should hope for. Look at yachtworld.com (brokers only), boattrader.com (brokers and sellers), and boatus.com--probably the "big three"--and see what's listed both nationwide and in the Northeast--not just C-25s, but O'Days and Hunters of roughly the same vintage.

I don't agree on the value of some of the "tricking out" that Stardog lists... A '78 C-25 is only going to get so much, and your primary market is people buying their first keelboat. If there's one thing you're missing, it's probably the trailer. For most people, the swing keel is an advantage for trailering and an unnecessary complication for a boat kept in the water and stored in a boatyard.

What really counts in my experience is making the boat shiny, clean, uncluttered, and looking like it's been well maintained. Like houses, it's the "curb appeal" that gets an emotional response. Also, if it doesn't leave any scars, I'd recommend you remove that steering system--even though you find it useful, it'll spook a lot of buyers. This is why a number of us advised against putting it in so early in your experience with the boat.

Anything in particular you're looking at?

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 17:03:50

nothing in particular, Im just snooping around,
today I was offered 6500..... in cash by someone who has been after me for a month now,,,
and its not just talk, he actually brought cash today and i turned him down, and by the way Dave,, it was the helm steering he really loved when we took the boat out,,
so,, to answer your question, I dont think so
thanks

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 17:04:58

im holding out for 7200..
lol

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/29/2008 : 18:41:03

Yep--there's always somebody out there... I was talking about your general market--didn't know you had a hot prospect. Best of luck--if he's that interested, he'll probably come up a little. That name is the kicker!

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ddlyle
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 06:25:42

If I really wanted another boat, I'd take the $6,500.
Look at this way, if you were eyeing your next dream boat, would that $700 stop you?
Probably not, you'd cough up the extra $700.
Same difference either 700 less in your pocket now, or later.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 07:01:19

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ddlyle
 If I really wanted another boat, I'd take the $6,500.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">That's because you're not a New Yorker, Dave... New Yorkers (including North Jerseyites) need to get the upper hand on any deal!

But I agree on the $6500 (or anything close to it), Guglielmo--if you let this "bird in the hand" fly away, you'll likely be storing your For Sale boat over the winter. ...although I admit I know little about the Hudson River market.

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quilombo
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 07:30:08

I dont mind either way , I love the sailboat, and am fine with keeping her,
if the buyer gets away he gets away, not an issue,
theres always next year, (maybe) and as I said I love the boat, Im just missing getting to where I want to go faster,
but theres always another option,,,,, get a power boat to,,

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 08:57:13

Oooooh... back to the Dark Side.

Well, you can see what I did... 6 gph at 20 knot (23 mph) cruise is a pretty good compromise these days. A C-25 under power does a little better on an mpg basis, but takes four times as long to get there. I had a smaller center-console boat along with Passage, but that meant one more $lip and one more winter $torage bill. Now I'm looking for a really little sailboat.

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Response Posted - 06/30/2008 : 12:08:15

I see a commonality between the helm steering mentioned and the thought of going faster "get a power boat" statement.

Perhaps there is a hidden message, yes?

Deric

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 07/01/2008 : 11:22:42

Maybe you're a MacGregor guy. With a MacGregor you get a steering wheel, a 50HP (or better) OB, you get a mast and some sails. These boats will plane, easy to trailer, parts are inexpensive and abundant. AND, you can wear your Captain's hat.

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