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bradminda
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Initially Posted - 06/16/2008 :  13:39:35  Show Profile
I have a new spinnaker but with to use a sock. Does anyone have the plans on how to sew one. I and way to frugal ( my wife says cheap) to just buy one.

Brad

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  15:50:21  Show Profile
Don't be so cheap!

In the interest of full disclosure, I used to sail with Gary Shaw, the inventor of the Chute Scoop. I was one of his crew who helped work the bugs out of this thing. If you buy one, maybe he'll give me a commission! Just kidding.

Seriously, check out his website
http://www.chutescoop.com/WhyPage.htm


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Steve Milby
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  16:05:57  Show Profile
I just used one for the first time, and love it. It looks like one could be fabricated by a DIYer, now that Gary Shaw, Bruce Baker and others have worked out the design. I don't know of plans for one, but you could study a manufactured one and draw your own plans. But, first, I'd suggest you look for a used one on Ebay or elsewhere. Occasionally used ones come up for sale at pretty good prices, but you might have to look for awhile to find one the right size.

I have also had the pleasure of crewing for Gary, and he's a very nice, gentle man and a knowledgeable sailor.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  16:34:16  Show Profile
SailRite has a spin sock kit for a couple of hundred bucks...

sten

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 06/16/2008 :  17:26:55  Show Profile
When I bought mine, several years ago, it seems to me that it was like under $100. If that's still the case, i buy one and avoid the agrevation of making one. Used would be nice, but . . .

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  00:32:53  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
I bought mine at West Marine on line for $85.

They say for a symmetrical spinnaker to get the sock 5 feet shorter. My spin is 30 feet and the sock is 25.

I think the 30 foot sock would be better.

I stuff the whole thing in the turtle bag.

Once you get the hang of it you never have tangles any more doing the hoist or douse, and its great for short handed crews.

Better to race without it.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  10:06:31  Show Profile
I use my gennaker sock singlehanded all the time, and as mentioned above, it makes singlehanding feasible with an asymm.

I make & sew stuff for my boat, and the design of the spinnaker sock is not complex: a slightly tapered lighweight nylon bag with a side sleeve for the hoisting-dowsing line, small block at the top for the same line, the sail and block held by a stainless ring at the top, a 20" (?) plastic ring sewn into the base of the bag to facilitate dowsing, and a long loop of 3/8 (?) nylon line pulling the ring up and down (hoisting and dowsing) by a 3-point attachment of short lines.

For all that nylon, all that line, all that sewing, and the stress of not knowing if it is designed optimally, I would be hesitant to make a replacement for mine from scratch if it were lost or stolen.

It's hard to imagine this price, but WM sells a [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/68928/377%20710/0/spinnaker/Primary%20Search/mode%20matchallpartial/10/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=spinnaker&Ntk=Primary%20Search&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Nao=10&Ns=0&keyword=spinnaker&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=2&subdeptNum=341&classNum=10899"]$13 spinnaker sleeve[/url], and they show crew dowsing a spinnaker with it!!!

There you go!

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  10:16:12  Show Profile
OK, here's the catch! ATN, Inc. who makes the spin sock, gives the real price as PER FOOT. Multiply $13.99 X 28' or whatever, and you get several boat units.

Go ahead, Brad, make your own!

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Fantasy II
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  10:16:59  Show Profile
ER, WM price is actually $13 per FOOT!

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 06/17/2008 :  10:51:33  Show Profile
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I feel the make or break of the snuffer sock design is the fiberglass scoup inlet shown in photo attached to sock.
I also agree with JimB517 on extra length of sock as you can see in photo a lot of sail left out sock to deal with... I have to tie up excess in a 10 knot wind it's a handfull.




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