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cat1951
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Initially Posted - 03/12/2008 : 09:54:10

I have been looking on the Internet for quite awhile now, but have been somewhat unsuccessful. I am looking for a set of pot holders that I can install in the galley to hold pots on the small stove I am building in. I am looking for something that would be a universal kit and not specific to one stove or another.

I have thought about just using an aluminum strap across the front of the stove, but am stuck on how to mount it. Any help would be appreciated.

Here is a picture of the setup:

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redviking
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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 11:54:32

Not gonna happen with the front and rear bars round. I have a Princess Stove/Oven with fiddles, which is what I think you want. These are shaped pieces of steel that bolt down to hold a pot in place. They clamp to a rail on either the forward or aft portion of the stove. They have thumb screws to tighten them down and you can adjust the width to the size of the pan.

ONLY PROBLEM, you don't need it unless your stove gimbals.... Unless you use a really big pot to cook your soup.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 11:57:54

Mike,
Not sure if this will help, but here are a couple of different manufacturers of similar products designed to do what you want. Mounting them on the stove may be a bit of a design challenge, but at least you'll know where to get the hardware and how others do it.

[url="http://www.fisheriessupply.com/online/search.asp?N=0&Ntk=All&Ntt=pot%20holder&Nty=1&D=pot%20holder&act=A02&hideprops=1&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial+rel+Inactive"]Pot holders[/url]

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 12:03:16

Thanks for the link. I had run across these previously. I may very well have to build a rail across the front only. And if we don't get many waves, I may not even need them if we cook at the slip.

I have had another idea that might work very well. We have a self cleaning oven and one time we left the racks in the oven during cleaning. Once they had been through the process, nothing would slide on them. I just might stick the grill part of the stove in the oven during a cleaning cycle. That just might do it.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 12:29:50

Sticky racks are best left for porn stars. Again, if your stove does not gimbal - it may be useless anyway... we used to cook on Zephyr underway, but only when it was flat and in a big pot... I've had to physically hold the pot for stinkpotter wakes...

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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 13:24:25

I would be tempted to make up something out of steel bar. Put it in a Vise and bend to make C shaped pieces. one across the front, one across the back, and three running front to back (right side, Left side, middle. You would end up with a raised square around each burner. These would act as fiddles.

To attach it to the stove, drill hoes through the steel baseplate on the stove, then run a die over the ends of the shaped steel bar to cut the thread of your choice, and put a nut on each side of the steel plate. The whole thing would be somewhat removable if it didn't work out. What is in the space below your stove (black stuff)?

I agree with red though, a gimbaled stove would be ideal, however that aside, your mod is quite a good idea, and one I might try with our butane stove.

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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 13:36:17

Check with Hamilton Marine..... dot com?? I believe I saw a generic kit in their 2008 catelog.

If not, I adapted the one from my old curtain burner stove, which came with my C-25, to a stove simolar to yours. I'm sure that if you check with a few manufacturers you can come up with one that will work for your application.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 15:01:07

Thanks all, I am pretty sure I can design and build one. We don't cook underway at all, just in the slip or maybe when we begin anchoring in a cove. No swell here on the lake, but the stinkpots can raise quite large waves if they get too close. Will also check hamilton marine as well.

Prospector... Sorry, I forgot to answer your question. The black stuff you see below the stove is the case for the cooktop we use now. It is one of those portable butane stoves and is less stable than I like in the cabin. It works fine, but you can cook only one thing at a time. I will keep it aboard as a back up.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 17:49:08

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Response Posted - 03/12/2008 : 23:10:48

you could get 1/2" round oak at home depot .

drill half inch holes in the four corners on the base ,
glue in the round oak and put the strap on that .

just a thought

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 07:45:00

That, or something like that is a real possibility. Based on the sailing we do (lake), I think I really only need to protect the front of the stove. The sides have the wind screen on both left and right and the top will be in the back. So I just need the front protected.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 10:56:43

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Originally posted by redviking

Sticky racks are best left for porn stars.
sten

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Sten - I like the way your mind works!!!

Renzo - glad someone noticed! I was starting to think those sex toy and viagra Google ads that sometimes appear here were really needed.

sten

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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 11:01:20

At the risk of sounding like an old fart without a libido, I'll just say there's a time and place for everything Sten.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 15:16:10

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 At the risk of sounding like an old fart without a libido, I'll just say there's a time and place for everything Sten.
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And at the risk of sounding like a dirty old man I say that if you always wait for the right time and place you risk becomming just an old man.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 16:11:24

At the risk of sounding like just an old man, I'll just say there's a time and place for everything Renzo.

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Response Posted - 03/13/2008 : 20:16:47

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 At the risk of sounding like just an old man, I'll just say there's a time and place for everything Renzo.
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It was only meant as a joke John. As one who has earned the title of old man (63) I try to keep my skin thick and my sense of humor cutting edge thin; but I guess sometimes it slices a little too close to the bone for some. It was not intended to offend only to amuse.

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Response Posted - 03/14/2008 : 09:23:32

Sorry, my bad too.... Just couldn't help myself when I saw the "sticky racks" comment. There is a time and a place, but my wife just complained that there was no reference to "sticky hunks!" I tried to explain the whole racks thing but failed. Guess you can't please everyone. Long before there was "sex and the city" there was "sex and the sea." Note the barebreasted ladies to calm the raging sea on some ocean going vessels. I always wanted two things on my C25 - a topless mermaid figure on the bow, and one of those big Rolex stickers they afix to racing boat snobs in Newport and other places...

Renzo, you are my new wing man! You've got 20 years on me, but I'll hang with you anytime! You too John, I'll pick the time AND the place. Silver Slipper at 3 sound good?

sten

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Response Posted - 03/14/2008 : 15:24:15

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redviking
 ...........Silver Slipper at 3 sound good?

sten
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Your on Sten! It may take me a while but I'll give you a call next time I'm in Boston (Love that city)In the meantime if you ever get near the Detroit area look me up and we can buzz some of the local establishments.

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Response Posted - 03/14/2008 : 15:48:28

Let's get serious, guys--we've got sticky-governor problems over here in New York!

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 08:35:32

OK guys, I will change the title of the thread for a small fee.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 09:04:09

How about $1.35?

Yeah, what's with east coast Dems? OK, so the Dems can't keep their unit in their pants while the Repubs are giving hand signals to you in the bathroom stall. Ooops... Political statement... Bi Partisan albeit. Renzo I now live on my 39 foot C&C and we are currently in St. Augustine Floorreeeda... Will be heading north to Newport RI this summer. Providence ri has some great "establushments" so if you get to the left coast, I'll show you some good ole Democratic hospitality Kennedy style. OK, we'll skip Chappaquidic and move on to women 20 years our junior who like to sail without windmills obstructing their course and their view. For those of you who don't know - Ted Kennedy is against wind generated power because he might have to put his beverage down to steer around them in Nantucket Sound.

Back to sticky racks and the original post - I think I have a solution. Why not use heavy wire to keep the pot in place? Drill a hole in the cover and attach a wire to it with a clip on the other end that will wrap around the pot and attach to one of the round stove grate ends? Two of them placed on either side would be flexible enough to create a pocket around a pot such that it wouldn't move when a stinkpotter jostled the boat.

I'm Sten Hillman and I approved this message.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 10:07:44

The wire idea might work, but I would like to keep the top intact. What I may do is similar to what Sean suggested. I might take oak dowels and add them to the corners of the wooden top. Then cut the top of the dowell to form a 1/2 circle, attach an aluminum strap of some kind across the front at the right height. Then if the stove needs to be removed for any reason, all I have to do is lift out the wooden counter.

Sorry Sten, but $1.35 won't buy anything marine and it certainly won't buy enough gas to get me away from the dock. Well maybe a little ways away.

Edited by - cat1951 on 03/15/2008 10:09:43

Renzo
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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 15:09:00

A few thoughts about the original topic. Just remember that holding the pot still on a surface that isn't gymbaled will not keep the contents of said pot from sloshing all over the place if you are hit abeam by a hard wake or heavy wave. Why not try to use the original gymbaled set-up from the old alcohol stove and adapt to hold the new propane stove. Then you only have to worry about fore and aft movement (which isn't as drastic)and you can use "Fiddles" to hold the pot against the fore and aft motion (which is really all they are intended for.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 15:42:35

Well, I am not really looking to save the contents from sloshing around. Just a guard to keep the stuff on top of the stove from sliding off. We are very protected in our marina slip by virtue of it being an all sailboat marina. We don't do a lot of anchoring out over night that would make the waves a concern. Maybe when we do, then the gimbaled setup would make sense. For now, I just want to keep the pots and pans in place. That is the basis of the "sticky rack" comment. If the pans can't slide easily, then the possibility of a fall to the deck is lessened. And then I can concentrate on other racks...........

Edited by - cat1951 on 03/15/2008 15:44:16

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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 16:11:53

Quote: And then I can concentrate on other racks...........

Ah grasshopper, but can you make them "sticky?"

I agree with my fellow Pre-Verted friend and would suggest converting the alcohol stove to propane using the fittings of the stove you bought. This way you'll never have to worry about your staying power on the sticky rack.

Seriously, I held onto my alcohol stove because I thought I'd get around to converting it... It's still in my basement long after the boat was gone. However, we lived with a fixed stove for many years with rare mishaps while anchoring and/or moored every night. No sticky rack required.

sten

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Response Posted - 03/15/2008 : 16:21:29

Maybe you could use wire rope/cable clamps secured to the wire stove top. You might even be able to use these with a piece of #6 solid, bare copper wire from the hardware store to fab a pot holder. With something like this, I can't imagine it costing more than $10.00.

Edited by - dlucier on 03/15/2008 16:22:17

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