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americanrascal
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Initially Posted - 02/02/2008 : 14:30:20

I am needing help making sure I have the fore-stay on the CDI furler on the correct pin location at the masthead of my 01 WK. I had seen a thread on this on the forum (with pictures) once before but could not locate that info to check my setting. I tried the search and archives features but could not access existing info.

There is an outer pin (forward) and a lower inner pin at the masthead. As with other threads I have seen, it is a major chore on our boat to pin the fore-stay ,even with with all rigging loosened .

Any advice or info would be appreciated

Joe

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 15:49:50

paulj

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americanrascal
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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 15:55:26

Thanks Paul for the response --I have been using that connection. But I was trying to find the correct position (of the 2 pins)for the connection at the masthead.

Joe

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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 19:08:35

http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/manbro/C250OwnersMan.pdf

Mast head ya I remember

paulj

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Al
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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 19:21:44

From my '03 WK manual, it looks like it's the lower location, the one closer to the mast:

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 20:51:19

My 97 Tall Rig has a completely different mast head, only one attachment point.

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johnsonp
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Response Posted - 02/02/2008 : 22:47:01

Tom
Your rigging tape around the cotter pin is missing

Your rigging tape is missing around the cotter pin and pin joint

Some days I can spell

paulj

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americanrascal
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Response Posted - 02/03/2008 : 06:33:27

Thanks everyone- My rig has been pinned in the forward connection at the masthead since we've had it . It has been exceptionally difficult to make the lower connection when raising the mast- even with all the turnbuckles extended. Hopefully moving it to the lower and inner position displayed here will buy us some ease in connecting the lower connection.

The head of the CDI furler (4) on the boat looks a little different than the one displayed in Paul's picture but it would seem the manual reference shown by Al would be a strong indicator that the lower and inner pin should be the proper rigged position.

Today we're replacing the halyard on the CDI furler(boy that's fun). Maybe a coat or 2 of bottom paint late in the day if its warm enough- then a launch on West Point lake for the year in a week or so- water permitting.

Your help has been most appreciated.
Joe

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Response Posted - 02/03/2008 : 14:23:02

Joe
Just a friendly reminder.
If you have a cotter pin at the mast head don't forget to wrap it with rigging tape....so the halyard doesn't snag it and the same goes for all over the boat, mainstays vs the foresail sheet lines.
I think NDuck had this problem once and posted a blurb.

One of the more important things I learned taking very long cruises in the C250.
Also lost a couple of boom sheet shackles.

Get on the water soon.

paulj

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americanrascal
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Response Posted - 02/03/2008 : 14:34:21

Cotter pins are outside the flange at the masthead- but for safety sake will do.

Great points- Thanks!

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Response Posted - 02/03/2008 : 19:48:49

Paul is right. I made two mistakes with the cotter pins on my shrouds at the turnbuckle. First I had the cotter rings on the outside and second I didn't wrap them. The sheets caught the ring and worked it off. The the pin came out and the next thing I know I have a shroud hanging in space and the danger of losing the mast. Fortunately we were able to let the wind out of the sail, lower the main and make a repair.

Wrap all cotter pins and rings!

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americanrascal
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Response Posted - 02/04/2008 : 04:43:10

Thanks Randy and Paul:

My mast head system is as displayed in the diagram by Al. Its different than Paul's or Tom's. The pin goes through both flanges then is cotter pinned outside the flange frame on opposite side of the masthead. I will put tape over the pin but I doubt it will stick as there is nothing to wrap it around as there would be on the set up displayed by Tom and Paul. Its a large flat surface and I can see no way to wrap it, I could really only cover the pin with tape and hope it holds.

Will surely give a shot though for safety sake. I agree that there simply isn't enough cover you can put over an exposed pin when you have line or fabric in the vicinity!
Joe

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Response Posted - 02/04/2008 : 18:30:02

Joe,
Do you have enough water to launch in West Point?

I'm stuck in Lake Lanier, no ramps with enough water to pull me out, I think there's one ramp way north on the lake that Bass Boats can still launch, they laid steel at the end of the ramp. All the boat lifts are shut down still.

I hope to be moving to my property on the Pamlico Sound in a couple months but will most likely have to leave my boat here in the lake until the water rises enough to pull out.

We are starting to get a little rain here lately, and the water level had come up a couple inches, (only 18 more feet to go)

PaulJ,
Thanks for pointing out the cotter pin, I'll try and remember to wrap it when I drop the mast next time.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 02/05/2008 : 17:10:00

wow !....18`

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americanrascal
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Response Posted - 02/06/2008 : 04:38:18

Tom:
They completely drained the conservation pool at WPL this summer. Much of the northern part of the lake above GA 109 went completely dry(WPL is much shallower than Lanier) I managed to get on the hard before the ramps got dry- so had a great slip that was high and dry all year. A lot of boats didn't get out in time and at least one ( there are only about 2 dozne sailboats left on the lake) is now sunk in its slip with a ruptured hull from when they raised the lake .(Hull ruptured when it set down on the bottem when they drained the lake)

Seems most of the rain over the past 3 months thus far has been south of I-20 so the Corps managed to restore the lower 3 lakes failry well as thier basins are larger and they fill quickly. George and Seminole are virtually full as are the GA power lakes. WPL is still about 6 feet low, but I can barely get in and out at its current elevation. However as soon as the Flint goes dry (and it will assuming another dry year) they will draw down West Point again to satisfy demands south and for FL. So we aren't sure we are doing the right thing dropping the boat back in.

This is sad because we firmly believe this was all preventable for both lakes- but that's another story.

So we continue to look for long term opportunities on the Gulf, if they can't stabilize WPL. I haven't ruled out the southern part of WF George as it remained low but relatively stable all year.

The Corps new water control plan will hopefully bring some sanity back to the river and the lakes of the Chatt.But it will take years to complete and resolve.

All the best and hope we get some big water in the mountains soon for the sake of the whole system.
Joe

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Response Posted - 02/16/2008 : 07:03:30

With Tradewinds help and a relocated masthead position to the rear lower pinned position- the mast raising seems to have gone faster and easier !!!

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