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nickyt7
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Initially Posted - 09/26/2007 : 13:35:29

Hello all,

I have spent many hours reading the valuable advise of all;Thanks! On my 1977 CAT 25 SR/SK I have the teak paper on my bulkheads. I have used Howard's Restore-a-Finish, but it did not restore the fading/loss of color on the bulkheads. I have read the forums on this topic, but have come to no conclusion. The bulkheads are in good condtion, but the Teak Paper is needing restoration. Does anybody have advise?

Cheers,
Nick

1977 Catalina 25, SR, SK #144

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 13:42:02

If what is on your's is the teak paper simulated grain, then you really can't improve the look. I had thought that when you have this older plywood, then a laminate teak over top might be a good way to improve the look.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:34:41

I would consider painting it white. How about some cool wallpaper? Upholster it, that could be nice. I believe the early boats were the only ones with this "treatment".

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nickyt7
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 14:44:20

It is the older Teak Paper. I am researching the Teak Veneer to put over it. I might try some Cetol on a small area and depending on the results go from there.

Thanks for the feedback,
Nick

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 15:18:05

I talked to a friend who has a C25 who knows woodworking. He suggested teak veneer also. He also suggested that Cherry veneer has a very close grain to teak and would be more readily available at the local HD store.

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 15:59:00

Here is a source for self adheisive wood veneer.
http://www.tapeease.com/
I used some cherry wood veneer from this place a couple of years ago on a curved wall at home and it worked great. Easy to cut and apply with a regular cloths iron inexpensive too.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 19:50:26

" might try some Cetol on a small..."

I put Cetol on mine... it really improved the appearance.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 21:13:11

I am very confused, how does cetol improve a plastic sheet of vinyl with a picture of teak grain on it? Was real teak veneer an option and some people have wood and some don't? The only place I have seen the faux teak is on old ODays, let's flesh out exactly what was on Catalinas in 77.

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Response Posted - 09/26/2007 : 22:10:52

I think it was an option this discussion has surfaced a few times before and I think the responses were split on boats from that era. We had a real wood veneer on our 78. Cetol would not improve the plastic veneer, however if it were marine ply with a finished real wood veneer the cetol would work.

If you are considering a real wood veneer then I'd check out Rockler.com

However veneering that will take a load of time - might be more worth it replace the bulkheads? Ideally to veneer it you want to vacuum bag it and you'd need to pull them to do that anyway.

dw

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 09/27/2007 : 06:57:49

If it is 'paper veneer' then if it is that bad, consider peeling it off and applying a faux grain finish. Practice outside the boat on several pieces of timber before doing the real job. Several stores (search for constantines) sell 'grain' tools, I used them in the UK quite effectively.

Paul

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Renzo
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Response Posted - 09/27/2007 : 06:59:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Admin
 
However veneering that will take a load of time - might be more worth it replace the bulkheads? Ideally to veneer it you want to vacuum bag it and you'd need to pull them to do that anyway.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

That's why I suggested the pre-glued iron-on real wood veneer. it can be installed in place and then trimmed to fit with a utility knife. It realy adheares very well and if an edge ever does come loose it can just be re-heated with an iron and pressed back in place. I know it sounds to easy to be true but it realy works and the veneer can be finished in any way you want i.e. oil,cetol or spar varnish.

L.R.C.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 09/27/2007 : 09:09:42

Interesting topic. Up to what year/hull number did Catalina use "plastic" teak vs real veneer? My 1980 hull appears to have veneer plywood that has real teak.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 09/28/2007 : 10:47:54

My 1979 model has real teak ply. I know because I have the scraps down in my shop where they remained after I disassembled them and replaced them all with birch. If you are a woodworker it's not that much of a job. If you aren't, it might seem intimidating, but it's really fairly straightforward. I think a lot of us have done it.

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nickyt7
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Response Posted - 09/28/2007 : 14:14:27

Thank you for the many options. I'm not much of a wood worker, but I am considering the Veneer option. I just have to see if the veneer sheets come in a sufficient size verses piece parting it like a puzzle.

I'm a new owner as previously mentioned, and for now this bulkhead task is on my wish list. I'm just enjoying the sailing of my C25 and learning from you all. I have so much to learn and it becomes overwhelming, but it has become a true fasination and joy to do. As reccomended, I have purchased the Catalina Direct C25 Manual and joined the Association.

My biggest concern now is that with the purchase of the C25, I was given a wet slip for the winter here on Long Island, NY and it appears others are doing the same at the marina. I will sail until the conditions do not permit it. Even when I can't sail, I will be improving something with the boat. I have read the numerous topics on this, but I hope going with the wet slip does not turn into a bad decision. Any comments?

Cheers,
Nick

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