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Cavitating
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Initially Posted - 09/09/2007 : 18:10:49

The upper part of the roller furling jib is attached to the jib halyard. It seems to me that the furler should be directly connected to the mast instead being sustained by the halyard. If the halyard breaks, the mast will fall. I bought my 04 Catalina 250 used and I don't know who did this installation and if this is the propper way of doing it.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/09/2007 : 19:59:48

The 2004 250 has a Snapfurl roller and uses the jib halyard to hold up the sail. The forestay is enclosed in the furler foil and is attached at the masthead and bow stem.

Forestay exiting the furler foil and connected to the inside pin on the Masthead

This picture shows the forestay coming out of the furler drum and attached to the stem fitting. It maybe a little hard to see, but it is just behind the purple line (drifter tack line).

Here is how it looks with the jib hoisted with the halyard that is attached to the furler head swivel and then travels under the halyard restrainer. The restrainer is necessary to prevent the halyard from wrapping around the headstay foil. Foil = the part the jib is fed into as you hoist it.

Hope this helps. You should have received Snapfurl installation book when you purchased the boat. If not go to www.schaefermarine.com and look up the CF-500 manual.

Edited by - frog0911 on 09/09/2007 20:09:10

John Russell
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Response Posted - 09/09/2007 : 20:00:06

you mean that your jib halyard is your forestay? That ain't right. That's a disaster waiting to happen. Are you sure the forestay isn't running down the inside of the furler? What kind of furler do you have?

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Cavitating
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 07:06:33

I was told by the previous owner that the jib halyard keeps the furler sytem in place and that if I let the jib halyard go, the mast would come down! I keep my boat on the trailer at a sailboat marina so there is no need to lower the mast. I will bring it down to verify how the furler is attached.

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Cavitating
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 07:10:37

On my previous boat, a Hunter 240, the jib halyard was loose and it could be used to hoist another sail.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 08:57:11

The use of the halyard on the furler is dependent on the type of furler you have on the boat. The Snapfurl requires the halyard to raise the sail while the CDI furler does not. In the case of the CDI the halyard can be use for raising a drifter or any other sail.

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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 09:29:01

Is there a turnbuckle under your furling drum?
There is an old fashioned type of furler that uses a wire luff and does not utilize the forestay as a part of the furling system. However the forestay is still supposed to be used even with those systems. Was your PO some parts scavenging bottom feeder? A 250 should not have been in the hands of that type of PO, many 25s have been because of their age and the derelict condition of some of them, But a 250 should not have had to suffer the indignity of a bailing wire sailor yet. Some photos and the brand of furler would sure help the discussion.

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Cavitating
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 18:29:09

There is no turnbuckle under the drum. I will not be able to take photos until I bring the mast down and that wil be later next month as I live 129 miles away from where I keep the Catalina.
Thanks all for the input.

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/10/2007 : 19:35:51

Take your camera the next time you go to the boat and also your binoculars. If your halyard does not look like my picture and in fact your forestay is attached to your halyard and not the masthead I would not sail the boat until it is fixed.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/11/2007 : 16:17:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Cavitating
 The upper part of the roller furling jib is attached to the jib halyard.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
If by "upper part" you mean the swivel (the black donut toward the bottom of Frog's 3rd picture), it's supposed to be (except on a CDI, as you had on your Hunter).

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It seems to me that the furler should be directly connected to the mast instead being sustained by the halyard.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"> The furler foil encloses the forestay, which is connected to the mast-head and the stem fitting at the bow. There should be a turnbuckle inside the center of the drum. The halyard is connected to the swivel, which in turn is connected to the head of the jib. The swivel slides up and down the furler foil (tube) so that the halyard can hoist the jib. You couldn't hoist the jib if the halyard was already holding up the mast. In short, I don't believe your PO's story.

Edited by - Dave Bristle on 09/11/2007 16:40:43

Cavitating
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Response Posted - 09/12/2007 : 07:17:02

I will find out this weekend when I go to the marina. The reason I asked, was because the previous owner told me that that was how it was set up and it worried me that the mast would depend on the halyard.
Thanks all for your input. I will report back.

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