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jlannutti
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Initially Posted - 06/30/2007 : 08:08:58

In my effort to make Gracie (WB# 360) more single-handed friendly I'm going to add cam cleats and perhaps secondary winches somewhere on the coaming. I am wondering if anyone else has done this and exactly where they located them. To keep things nice and simple I'm thinking just above the little storage cubbys making installation a breeze (forgive that pun please). Any thoughts? I konw I'll need blocks forward of this to direct the jub sheet properly. It appears that there is 3/4" or 7/8" of thickness from the top of the coaming to the top of the cubby giving me a gook solid area on which to mount the hardware. Does anyone know if I have the same thing forward of that cubby?

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 06/30/2007 : 15:42:42

Hello Joe,
I had the same thoughts last year. What I did was take the bigger self tailing winches off the cabin top and place them on the coaming. I put them over the forward part of the coaming pockets so I could get to the nuts. Then got a small set of #6 lewmars and put them on the cabin top where the #16 were. Here's a [url="http://www.bellsouthpwp2.net/t/o/tompotter/my%20web/images/Winches.jpg"]picture[/url]. I used wide SS washers on the winch bolts for backing, the same size Catalina used on the cabin top winches.

Your right about adding blocks. I put a fair lead on the front leg of the mid stanchion and a rail block on the aft leg of the mid stanchion (I'm thinking of replacing the forward fair leads to blocks). The fair lead and blocks keep the jib sheets off the cabin top and also routes the sheets out of the cockpit. You can adjust the block so to get the right angle for your winch.

I have to say this has been one of the best mods that I have done.

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UP250WK
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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 14:21:36

Tom,

Thank you for the informative reply. It's a mod that I would like to make soon. Can I assume that the reason for moving the 16's and replacing them with 6's is less expense and that the cabin top winches would now only be used for halyards & reefing lines that get pulled through the clutches?
I will also want to direct the jib sheets using blocks attached to the the legs of the mid-stanchions but am at a loss as to exactly what blocks to use and how to strap them to the stanchions. Can you give me some advice on this. Thank you.

Jim Dempsey
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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 19:05:07

Jim,
You assumed right. I wanted the self tailing winches on the coaming to work the jib sheets. It makes tacking a breeze! I thought about other methods to hold the sheets like clamcleats etc. but nothing beats a strong winch in a blow. I couldn't see buying another set of high dollar 16ST winches for the coaming when the ones that came with the boat would work just fine, my thoughts were leaving the 16ST's on the cabin top would be over kill for just the halyards and reefing.

It made more since to me to move the 16ST's to the coaming and replace them with a cheaper set of #6. I picked up the #6 at [url="http://mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=LEW19006100&Category_Code="]Mauri Pro ( #6 Lewmars)[/url]

I will tell you that the #6 and #16ST do not have the same bolt pattern. You might want to take that into consideration when looking for winches or you can do what I did and fill the old #16 holes and make new holes for the #6's. If I recall a couple of the holes lined up and I only had to fill some of them. Anyway its not a hard job, you have great access to the cabin top winch holes if you decide to fill them. (I just seen you have a 2003, you probably have 14ST instead of 16ST, in any case check your bolt patterns)

For running the sheets, I used the [url="http://mauriprosailing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SPIWL1&Category_Code=SPIFURLEADBULL"]Spinlock Furling Fair leads[/url] on the upper legs of the mid stanchion and something similar to [url="http://www.sailingsupply.com/Schaefer-Clamp-On-Pulpit-Furling-Block-1/id/33/prod/54"]this rail mount block [/url] on the bottom legs of the mid stanchion. My plans are to replace the Spinlock Furling Fair Leads with another set of rail mounted swivel blocks like I have on the lower legs. There was a guy on eBay that was selling 2 of the rail mounted blocks for $30 plus shipping new. Thats where I got my set from. Wish I would have gotten 4 now. I'm just waiting for him to list some more.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 19:48:14

Tom, could you post a picture or two of the rail setups? Do you still use the genoa track or is that not part of this arrangement? Setting up for single handing would allow the Admiral to relax on the boat while I sail.

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Response Posted - 07/09/2007 : 19:52:40

I looked for a picture showing the setup but can't find any showing the whole rig. I'll take a few pic's this weekend.

Randy, I still use the tracks.

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Response Posted - 08/19/2007 : 18:48:05

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Nautiduck
 Tom, could you post a picture or two of the rail setups? Do you still use the genoa track or is that not part of this arrangement? Setting up for single handing would allow the Admiral to relax on the boat while I sail.

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Randy,
I finally got a picture of the jib sheet set up.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 12:40:26

Tom. I did the same mod but can not figure out where to have the stripper arm pointing. Any suggestions?

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 13:01:56

Thanks for the photo Tom, very helpful. I think this is a mod I am going to do in the off season. I don't single hand but the Admiral really likes to relax on the boat and read, etc so this would accomodate that.

Is there any way to use those 16Ts on the coaming to raise and lower the halyard? I only raise the main because the genny is on a furler.

Jay, what is a stripper arm? I know what a stripper's arm is but am assuming that is not what you are refering to!

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 08/20/2007 : 20:24:47

You want the self-tailer (stripper arm) aimed toward you - where ever it is you plan to be when using the winch, like in Tom's picture.

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zebra50
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Response Posted - 08/24/2007 : 11:58:58

thanks. that is where I want the strippers arm also-aimed right at me

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