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Nautiduck
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Initially Posted - 06/19/2007 : 11:28:48

Hey gang, I am beginning planning for my next boat project. I want to install the Edson dual controls for my outboard. I have researched the archives and see that people have done this. So far the wisdom I have garnered (thank you!) is:

Dual Control system is 1/3 the cost of single lever control.
Use the Edson cables because they are much higher quality.
Use the 10' cables.
Run the cables into the same entry point as the outboard power cable.

I plan to use this setup for my 2000 Honda 9.9. I still have a few questions:

Is the Honda a "pull the cable forward for FORWARD gear" or a "pull the cable forward for REVERSE gear?" That impacts which Edson model to get.

If I get the Edson kit and use Edson cables do I need anything from Honda?

Defender has the Edson kit for $280-$300 depending on which model. Know of any better deal?

Any other advise?

I would love to see photos of your setups!!

I believe that this setup, coupled with a rudder-OB link will be a sweet solution to close-in maneuvers and that, rather than hunching over the outboard, I can be standing tall like a real pirate.

We cannot direct the winds but we can adjust our sails.

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SEAN
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 10:08:16

Hey Randy ,

I added a aluminum pipe to the forward /reverse leaver with two hose clamps . Its about 12" long , and thats a big help .
its hard to see in the picture . I can take more if you want .

But a even bigger help I tied a line to that little leaver you have to use to tilt the motor up or down . one end goes to the leaver the other end goes to the stern rail seat , to raise the the motor pull the line forward , to drop it pull the line back . Big back saver

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jguyot
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 12:54:54

Hi Randy,
I have the Edson set up and like it a lot!I had ordered the whole remote kit when I bought my motor back in 2001. With this kit I was able to mount the key starter at the Pod as well. As far as the cables, I needed to replace mine a couple of years ago, can't remember whose cables they were (I think they were the OMC Brand) and yes the length was 10'.
Here are a couple of pictures of my set up:

Please excuse the dirt ..... Those were taken 2 years ago!

Any questions, please let me know.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 13:23:03

Thanks Jerry, just what I needed. I am going to have to see if this will be compatable with my Auto-Helm. I think it will be OK.

Do you have any photos of the port side of the OB? Do you still have the handle to steer with?

It looks like I will need some parts from Honda. Do you have the kit # by any chance?

Very nice pedestal guard setup! Having the on/off and kill button right there is nice.

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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 14:32:49

Hi Randy,
I never had the "Handle" on my motor. I ordered the motor as a "Remote" set up from the begining. All the wiring was done to Honda's remote set up and then I took the Key Start Switch, Safety Switch, and the Oil/Overheat light and mounted them on the "Pod". Not sure if you have electric start or not, but that is just a plug on the port side of the engine (Under the cover). I don't have any pictures of that side of the engine. If you don't have electric start, you should have a much easier job. All the "Manual" controls are under the starbord cover. All you should need is the "Cable Holders" on the front (Starbord) part of the engine and the 2 attachments that screw on the end of the cables that fit into the shift rod and the throttle. I can't find my slips on the cables, but I believe I went to 11 foot cables, because the 10 footers were just a little bit to short and I believe they were "Volvo/Penta" cables, but not sure. When I bought mine, there was some discussion on this forum regarding which cables were more flexible, but I just don't recall which ones.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 15:08:01

Thanks Jerry, very helpful. But, how do you steer the motor?

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jguyot
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Response Posted - 06/20/2007 : 15:33:36

I don't have to steer very often, but when I do, I reach back, loosen the "Friction Control" and turn the motor by hand. (If you look real close at the 2nd picture, you will see a small piece of flat metal with 2 holes in it, just above the cables, coming out the front of the engine. I use this as a steering handle! I believe on a "Normal" set up, this is where the steering cables would hook up to.) It doesn't turn real easy because of the cables, but is just enough for me. I do find I have much better control with the throttle and shift lever at the helm. I can also sit on the gas locker and control it fairly well since I am looking forward most of the time. Because of the cables, I can turn the motor in a "direction" (And it will usually stay in that position) and counter act it somewhat with the throttle and shift lever.
I am sure you will find it much easier to control with the controls at the helm.

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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/21/2007 : 05:21:53

Randy...please confirm you received the forwarded email....thanks.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 06/21/2007 : 10:56:35

Yes, I got the e-mail. Thank you and coldducks. The feedback to use 14' of control cable is different than other postings in the archives. I will take the tape measure out and be certain about length. I assume that the route for entering the hull and getting to the pedestal from the outboard is a factor.

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