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Second Wind53
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Initially Posted - 06/13/2007 :  10:00:01  Show Profile
I'm wondering if anyone with one of the early boats with the spreaders from the deck/hull joint have used a 135 % jib. I've got a big 156 jib that must have been from a C25 i'm guessing and been playing with the furler for size. It seems to work best at aprox 135% but with the furling you just don't know.

Anyway, because the sail doesn't fly too well going outside of both shrouds I have tried running it in between the main and lower shrouds and it works pretty good. The critical point would be if the sail hits the spreaders as I am inside the outside shroud.

Can anybody tell me if their 135 sail would be touching the spreader if they were running the sail like I am.

Thanks in Advance.

Peter

95 250WB #90
Vancouver, BC
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piseas
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Response Posted - 06/13/2007 :  13:41:07  Show Profile  Visit piseas's Homepage
I believe a 110 comes standard. I have heard others using a larger. Do a search in this forum for more info. Good luck.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/13/2007 :  14:00:01  Show Profile
I'm replying here based only on my research on the C-250 before I ended up buying a C-25. As I understand it, the 250-WB was always made with the wide spreaders and gunwale-mounted chainplates, with the expectation that only a 110 (or smaller) would be used. The 250-WK was given inboard chainplates and narrower spreaders to allow closer sheeting of the optional 135, which was not offered (or was quickly discontinued) on the WB because it was thought to be too much sail for that boat's stability. In heavier air, the WB is probably faster with a 110 because it stays on its feet better. For light air, a WB could fly a drifter, which doesn't want close sheeting. A 135 rolled down to a 110 will not have very good shape for sailing in heavier air.

Your "between the shrouds" sheeting seems problematic to me... On a reach or run, it would seem your sheet is going to be held in by the upper shround, giving you terrible shape and potentially stressing the rig. I'd have to see it, but I don't think I'd do it.

The C-250-WB owners here will give you their opinions on sail sizes. As for me, I've told you more than I know...
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zebra50
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Response Posted - 06/13/2007 :  16:26:54  Show Profile
mine is a 250 WB from 1998 #370. The shrouds are on the gunwale, and the sheets are inside the shrouds, to the tracks located on the cabin top. The boat came with a 135. I dont have a problem, that I can tell with my limited experience, with the 135.
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 06/14/2007 :  07:37:29  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
I think it would contact the spreaders if hardened. A 155% drifter when sheeted at the rail can't be hardened fully without contacting the spreaders so your desire to sheet to the jib rails would make it even more of an issue.

As Dave points out, Catalina changed the shroud terminations for the wing keel so that they could run more than a 110.

One option might be to run the sail as a drifter with a loose luff. Add a block at the stem for a tack line and carry the tack line to the cockpit and cleat. The jib halyard is free if you have the CDI. Sheeting must be done at the rail as the jib track is far too short, especially on the '95 -'96 models. You might try the midship stanchion base for a sheeting block. The 155% drifter from Gary Swenson at Ulman Sails of Ventura, Ca sheets to the aft quarter stanchion base but the sail is cut high to make that sheeting angle work so I doubt the aft stanchion would work for the sail you are dealing with.
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