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haley
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Initially Posted - 06/10/2007 :  18:37:53  Show Profile
I inspected an early eighties C25 at a broker today. The previous owner had duct tape over a rectangular hole in the fore deck, maybe twice the size of a deck of cards. Inside he had it covered with white plastic. Any ideas what might have been here?

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 06/10/2007 :  18:56:22  Show Profile
Deck prism?
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Response Posted - 06/10/2007 :  20:42:55  Show Profile  Visit Admin's Homepage
Early models had both a fordeck cowling (bad location choice frank) in this location. Most that I have seen were round, however that doesn't mean they used a different brand on a feww hull numbers.

http://www.catalina-capri-25s.org/manbro/C25Partsmanual.pdf
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Response Posted - 06/10/2007 :  21:39:20  Show Profile

http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=1321
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  06:45:53  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
I actually have two round ones like that on the O'day. I never new what they were called and just referred to them as the skylights we have to recaulk every 3 years.

Thanks Don
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haley
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  07:09:21  Show Profile
You guys are great - that would be it! Nice to see that there is an option besides duct tape (although LL Bean does sell a spiffy plaid version).

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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  11:33:06  Show Profile
I strongly recommend making your own external skylight lense instead of getting the one from Catalina Direct. The one I got from them was the same as the original, which tends to weaken in sunlight and break when stepped on (or when an anchor touches it). Get a 1/2" piece of Lexan (1/4" will probably do, too), cut to size (very easy, but don't use a high-speed saw) and bevel the top edges to meet the deck when it's set into the hole. It will sit on top of the plywood core, which is exposed around the outside of the cutout. The inside lense from CD is thin, cheap plastic, and totally unnecessary IMHO.
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haley
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  11:39:09  Show Profile
Dave,

Thanks for the advice. I was thinking of doing some lexan work anyway - hatch boards are gone and I was shocked at CD's replacement price. Figure maybe I will go lexan now and try a more traditional look later.

Also, that is scary about the exposed core. The owner has it covered with duct tape and I'm a tad worried about seepage. Will have the surveyor look into it if we go that far.

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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by haley</i>
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It's super-simple to check the integrity of the plywood there. My original lense (cracked by the PO) was set in silicone sealer, which seemed to have been smeared over the exposed plywood edges. Mine was solid.

BTW, don't be shocked by the price of anything made of wide teak boards!
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haley
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  14:55:44  Show Profile
Yes - Teak is pricey. For some things I am looking into alternatives. I am familiar with PasTeak, Starboard, Lexan, plastic replacement parts sold by CD. Am I missing anything?

Anyone try Ipe(?), a natural wood used with house decks.
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  15:32:44  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
Ipe is supposedly the new shizizzle. they can grow a tree in 4 years or something!

I don't know of its structural integrity relative to load etc.
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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  15:36:06  Show Profile
Even oak would work if you used cetol, it's hard enough, pine's too soft.
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 06/11/2007 :  17:55:09  Show Profile
Ipe (pronounced EE-pay, a Brazilian mahogany) is great for your backyard deck--it's used on the Atlantic City boardwalk and many other similar places--it's unbelievably hard, and sinks in water. It chews up normal saw blades and drill bits, and you can't even drive a nail through it without predrilling a hole the diameter of the nail. It's dark red when fresh, and then weathers to silver-gray. The downside is it's a little rough on the skin--tends to leave tiny slivers.
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