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saribella
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Initially Posted - 05/01/2007 : 15:14:54

I just had a sponsor fund a brand new $2k asymmetrical spinnaker with thier logo and web address. Other than just using this sail for all of my racing this year there is no contractual obligation, and I get to keep it. Can anyone see the downside to this?

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SailCO26
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 : 16:45:18

Funny, I was considering something similar with places I'm a serious customer of. Please let us know how this works out for you - hope it goes well!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 : 20:22:11

Only downside is sailing in a nationals or other ISAF category A event where class rules or ISAF Advertising ocde says NO WAY.

It should be noted however that you can decorate the hell out of your clothing. So I'd enter 2 or 3 Category A events and go back to the loft and have them give you a bulk discount. Tell the Advertiser you will need apparrel for the other events and "milk" them for new bibs, spray top, life jacket and hats which you embroidery and charge them twice the cost(for the entire crew of course. Then take the additional cash, kick in a few bucks yourself and get two sails out of the deal!!!!

I wasn't handing out sails at last years nationals because I look good!!!

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saribella
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 : 21:15:55

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Duane Wolff
 Only downside is sailing in a nationals or other ISAF category A event where class rules or ISAF Advertising code says NO WAY.
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The way I read the ISAF rule is that a national authority can choose category A or C, and that the national or organizing authority can also dictate the level of advertising though an advertising display system.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 05/01/2007 : 22:09:19

Yes they can have various allowed levels of advertising - however in most instances you will find that they only allow or disallow. In a IRC race with a TP52 - you might find the graduated levels and fees for advertising. You won't find too many where you can have it with a Capri 25. If you do, be prepared to pay a surcharge.

The rule states that the organizing authority or association can limit Category C advertising. I'm not sure what you mean by "display system" They also have the right, if they provide the equipment to do whatever the hell they want under category C, however clothing or personal gear cannot be mandated.

Additionally, since the association doesn't specifically indicate Category C, the default is Cat A - no advertising. That is to say that your national authority is a Category A. Generally speaking you will not find any advertising in national fleets - at least without a pretty steep fee. The goal behind that sort of a rule is to keep things monetarily obtainable. And then even with a fee - if say Haarstick sponsors your sail and you show up at a regatta that is fully funded by North Sails the organizing authority reserves the right to refuse your advertising do to conflict with a prime sponsor.

If you have a guy who can afford new 10k sails, carbon fiber everything and a 20 k bottom job every season he puts the rest of the fleet at a disadvantage because he has better marketing skills, salesman skills or relationships. None of which equate to being a better sailor.

I think you have a great deal going for yourself. As we all know, sails are not cheap - but just be prepared that you may show up and have to use the backup sail.

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Response Posted - 05/02/2007 : 09:18:59

I really appreciate your input Duane. This is why I asked the questions......leaves me to ponder the issue a little more. Thaks.

Edited by - saribella on 05/02/2007 09:21:22

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