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DaveR
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Response Posted - 02/16/2007 : 15:51:52

So this is what happens when winters are cold and the boats are on the hard ................

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djn
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Response Posted - 02/16/2007 : 17:23:16

its not a pretty sight Dave. Cheers.

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cat1951
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Response Posted - 02/17/2007 : 11:09:44

I have been thinking about this constantly since I read djn's post and my response. I think I know why it is proper for the dinette to be on the port side. It's because you enter an airplane from the port side as well. It's just the symmetry that is life.

If it doesn't get warm here soon, the white coats will be carting me away.

Edited by - cat1951 on 02/17/2007 11:10:34

John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/17/2007 : 11:13:13

Which came first, the sailboat or the airplane???????? Hmmmmmmm good theory though Mike. He says as he watches a couple more inches of snow fall on the back deck. I might need professional help....

Edited by - John Russell on 02/17/2007 11:15:13

Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 02/17/2007 : 13:42:40

Another consideration is where is the head. On the C34, the head is conveniently located on the port side at the base of the companionway. Following Leon's logic, that makes it a "starboard tack" head.

I find with the kind of sailing most of us do, eating down below when underway is rarely considered. It is, however, nice to use the head on starboard tack, much easier based on the layout and location. I added an extra teak loop handhold to use when standing - I know, some people have the sit down signs, but I do clean up before I leave the boat!

We had a traditional C25 layout, and after our C22's dinette, felt with the table up we had a ballroom in area. The C25 dinette arrangement rather cramps the space available, as has been discussed many times before, although those with C25 dinettes like them.

The C34 starboard dinette is just off the centerline of the boat and does not interfere with going forward at all, since there's a straight line from the base of the steps up forward almost literally on the centerline of the boat. Check out the layout on the brochures link at www.c34.org.

Interesting discussion.

Edited by - Stu Jackson C34 on 02/17/2007 13:45:42

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Response Posted - 02/17/2007 : 14:59:11

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by John Russell
 Which came first, the sailboat or the airplane????????<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Well, actually airplane came before the cruising sloop, and certainly before Catalina Yachts. I'd say the galley and the head are on the same side as the dinette because all three need more than half the beam of a C-25 (unlike a C-34). So then which side do they all go on.............? The side that picked "tails".

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Response Posted - 02/18/2007 : 09:38:06

Hi All, I was just looking through Yatchworld.com and realized that I feel the same way about sailboats with center cockpits. That seems to be real dumb place to put a cockpit. I realize that you gain a big aft stateroom, but you would not catch me sailing on one. Cheers.

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Response Posted - 02/18/2007 : 10:30:16

Dennis,
You have too much time on your hands. I'm glad! Keep stirring the pot!

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/18/2007 : 11:35:04

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 ...and realized that I feel the same way about sailboats with center cockpits. That seems to be real dumb place to put a cockpit...you would not catch me sailing on one. Cheers.
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That's because it has to have a steering wheel up there... That's where I start to have a problem. Sailing is meant to be done with a tiller! Steering wheels are for driving stinkpots (like mine).

Next thing you know, Hunter or somebody will make a pedal-operated mainsheet--step on it and it trims, take your foot off and it releases...

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