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Designwiz
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Initially Posted - 02/05/2007 : 14:16:53

I am curious if anyone on this forum has had to dispose of a fiberglass boat? I am buying a sailboat from an insurance company to cannabilize for parts and I have a need to get rid of what's left. Has anyone here had to do this and if so how did they manage it? Thank you for any help.

Wind Dancer

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 15:23:34

From what I've heard, it involves chain saws... How about Craigslist?

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Leon Sisson
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 15:50:52

Around here, I think the marinas have their derelicts hauled to the landfill (after a very long, expensive, and tedious legal process).

Once upon a time the wooden ones were burned as firewood to heat the marina owner's house.

I doubt setting fire to a fiberglass hull would be looked upon kindly by the local fire marshal.

-- Leon Sisson

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existentialsailor
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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 16:53:51

Hi Bruce/Wind Dancer,

I publish the EnviroDirectories - www.envirodirectory.com - and we are not aware of options for recycling. Landfilling will run $500 to a grand, once the vessel is there and chopped up...

This company sells cutting equipment, so you might contact them and see if they sold one of these in New England http://www.slashbuster.com/fiberglass_boat.htm

sten

http://www.recycle.net/Glass/fiber/index.html claims to have sources to recycle fiberglass, but it is unclear whether that is based on a manufacturing by product or not... And there does not appear to be any sources in the Northeast.

Setting fire will have serious environmental consequences! fines - jail time....

RI Department of Environmental Management had some program in place a few years ago to assist boatyards with this problem - so you might want to contact their help desk... Don't tell them your boat is in Mass!

Lastly - give it to some crazy person wishing to build a tri...

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 16:55:59

It might make an attractive planter

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 17:04:17

[url="http://www.mass.gov/dfwele/dmf/programsandprojects/draft_ma_artificial_reef_plan_ii_111706.pdf"]Artificial reef?[/url]

It doesn't say it can't be a boat, might be worth the question.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 18:05:14

I would look into using a reciprocal saw to carve it up and then rent a construction demolition dumpster to load it into. Let the refuse department haul it off. I can't remember ever seeing a law against disposal of fiberglass at a landfill and I live in California. We have laws about everything.

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dave holtgrave
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 18:41:01

do like they do in urban areas
park along a major highway, pull the plates, take a baseball bat to it and leave.

not posting name.
i don't want to be shot

this is a little humor!!!!!!

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 19:08:14

Launch it at night, paddle it out to deep water, open a seacock, swim away.

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Designwiz
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 19:50:26

Priced a dumpster today that was 15 feet by 8 by 5 feet tall. Price was $300 and I had one week to fill it. Each week after that was another $25. The sawzall pictured was the one I had looked at in Home Depot. They wanted $200, I'll search for a more competitive price but it looked real heavy duty and hopefully up to the job. Hope to get enough parts out of this to make it worth my while. As you can guess I have another sailboat besides my Cat 25. Sorry members it is a ComPac 27/2 and not a Catalina 25. Love that brass and teak, it certainly will keep me busy.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 22:22:29

Don't forget, you will make many pounds of dust. If not protected, you could give yourself or anyone around you some serious health problems. I would not even consider it unless you have may acres around your site. There are lots of parts that can be sold. I am pretty sure you could find a buyer for any of the bolt on fiberglass parts. Even pieces of the deck or hull might have value for a rebuilder.

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atgep
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 22:26:05

I saw my marina crush a boat with a forklift. It was a big one. If you could borrow one, it would do the job in an hour or so.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 23:11:36

Most appropriately named Harbour Freight has a saws all for $20.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4095

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new sailor
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 23:14:53

I'm with the artificial reef crowd. No one will ever know.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 06:39:17

Amazon has the sawzall for $160.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 07:02:36

Ryobi makes a real inexpensive reciprocating saw.

If you sink her, be sure to cut out the serial number, the hull number and the registration stickers.

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Don B
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 07:42:18

A local, casual beach type pub has the hull of a sailboat out front decorated with Christmas lights...adds to the character of the place and you can't miss it while driving by...not that I drive by very often

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Designwiz
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 07:46:19

I think the Ryobi would not be up to the job. Have purchased their products before and they are for light consumer use only. The Milwakee, a Bosch or DeWalt would be my top choices. Think I'll go with the Milwakee or better yet pay a neighbor down the street with a backhoe break it up and then have him put it into the dumpster for me. That sounds even better!!!

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 11:50:38

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Designwiz
 I think the Ryobi would not be up to the job. Have purchased their products before and they are for light consumer use only. The Milwakee, a Bosch or DeWalt would be my top choices. Think I'll go with the Milwakee or better yet pay a neighbor down the street with a backhoe break it up and then have him put it into the dumpster for me. That sounds even better!!!
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I would tend to agree with you. My reciprocating saw is a ryobi and is the only power tool I have that isn't Bosch or DeWalt. (we have a sales rep for Bosch at our club) It is almost worth trying for 40 bucks though.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 15:22:38

Let's see, backhoe 30 minutes, Sawsall hours and hours. No brainer.

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Ben - FL
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 16:00:55

Yes, a mini-loader would probably take much less time if you are any kind of an operator. Definitely get a decent respirator type dust mask. Also, whenever I am around fiberglass such as in an attic I put baby powder on. It keeps the glass from getting into your skin and itching. Personally I like the reef scenario if it is a viable option, help the sealife and save on landfill.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 16:05:02

Just for the record, I like the reef idea best.

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Chris Z
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Response Posted - 02/06/2007 : 20:55:15

Okay, I have had two cases to do just this type of thing. The first was a Force 5 that was droppped out of a pickup truck at 55 MPH. I bought the boat and rigging for $50. Kept the rigging for my new $450 hull and sawsall the rest. Not a big deal for a 150lbs craft. next was a free trailer i got with a trashed 17 ft trihull power boat. Cut it up quite a bit except it was quite a project at the keel. Finally got it to 2ft x 2ft squares at the keel, and even then they were quite a job to lift. My advise is to figure out what to do with it before you bring it home.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 02/07/2007 : 20:09:59

all good ideas, but on a more serious note -- in CT we contact auto junk yards. What they would like is to sell for scrap salvage any metal -- lead from keels, SS rails, any metal. If they see that teh boat ahs enough they will ake it for free or a nominal fee. You can also contact insuarance companies and ask them how they dispose of boats, such as from Katrina. Good Luck

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tinob
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Response Posted - 02/08/2007 : 14:26:45

Bruce, it might be a good idea to donate it to a local charity. They have ads in the local papers and hand outs at stores. In addition you might benefit doing so as a tax rite off.

Drove by the launching ramp this noon and there was a glass hull left next to the town dumpster. That's another possibility but I'd not cherish the thought of being caught doing so.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, #3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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