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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/08/2007 : 16:47:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by tinob
 Bruce, it might be a good idea to donate it to a local charity. They have ads in the local papers and hand outs at stores. In addition you might benefit doing so as a tax rite off.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
The tax rules have changed for boat donations--I won't try to go into how... Also, if he really canabalizes the boat for parts (as he stated), for donation purposes, it's no longer really a boat--it's a disposal liability for the poor charity.

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Response Posted - 02/11/2007 : 21:59:33

Salvage boat will be delivered Thursday and the fun begins. After all is stripped of any use to me or has any resale value I will most likely rent a dumpster and have a "chainsaw jockey" (firewood supplier) come by and cut it up. Bought a heavy duty sawzall but only to cut out what I needed. The diesel and trans will be interesting. I plan on using a floor jack under the hull area and with the sawzall cut out a section around the motor and trans and then lower it out of the boat with the jack. I hate to cut up any boat but this one is not repairable.

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 02/12/2007 : 05:45:51

Be sure to get the hull number and notify the association. Have Paul list it as disposed, sold for parts Salvage etc.

As for the motor...that doesn't sound safe....I can't think of any other way, except maybe using a 1 ton hoist.

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Response Posted - 02/12/2007 : 07:38:30

The engine itself is about 175lbs. I'd disconnect the tranny, put a u-bolt thru the cockpit floor with a backing plate (plywood), attach the main sheet to the engine and u bolt. And start out as you were thinking. Once the bottom of the hull and engine are lowered enough to take the slack out of the block and tackle, use that.

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Response Posted - 02/12/2007 : 08:47:49

That sounds like a plan. At 175 pounds it could make a divit and a half in my driveway if in the process it dropped off the pad on the floor jack.

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Response Posted - 02/14/2007 : 07:25:12

Went to pick up a heavy duty 13 amp Milwakee sawzall at Home Depot (like what someone posted) and they did not have an exchange policy if it died during the warrenty period. I would have to send it back and most likely wait a month for them to return it to me. I then went to Sears and they had a heavy duty 12 amp sawzall, same problem (no exchange if it dies) then for $15 more I got an over the counter one year exchange policy from them. I know it will die on me......it's a given, but at least now I can get another tool and keep cutting. Also bought a die grinder and a bunch of cut off wheels for those bolts that don't want to come apart. I kwow the saw is not the same quality of the Milwakee but it is pretty hefty. Fun begins this weekend, haulers deliver the boat tomorrow. Between the Catalina and the ComPac it looks like I'll be busy this spring

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Response Posted - 02/14/2007 : 07:41:15

Bruce, when you do the deed, just fill out an owners registration form, give the boat the name 'Disposed for Salvage' or something like that.
I'll be updating the owners list this weekend with the latest bunch of submissions.

Paul
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/14/2007 : 07:45:56

Paul--did he say the salvage boat was a C-25? I don't think he did.

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Response Posted - 02/14/2007 : 09:03:35

No No.....Wind Dancer my Catalina 25 is not going to be cut up. All these hull disposal posts intended to be generic, that's why it is the general forum section. The salvage boat is a ComPac I bought for parts on my other sailboat, which is a 1987 ComPac 27/2. Right now I am a three boat owner (not exactly a position I wanted to be in) because I couldn't pass up a great deal. Besides I just love all that teak and brass.

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Response Posted - 02/14/2007 : 18:55:49

the snag with hot threads, the details !

Phew, glad to hear that it's not a C25. Besides, if the hull thickness is similar to the C250, it would take a lot of sawsall blades!

Paul

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Response Posted - 02/18/2007 : 18:30:29

Tried out the 12 amp Sears sawzall on the rudder today. Cut the fiberglass portion of the rudder like it was butter. Solid glass, inch to inch and a half thick. Did not do as well with the 1-1/4" dia. solid stainless steel rudder post. Got about 1/4 thru it and the blade dulled out. Need to slow down the saw and maybe use some cutting oil I have. Made sure I stood upwind of the fiberglass dust for my trial cuts. Looks like this is going to work out for me.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/18/2007 : 19:04:14

Upwind won't get it. You HAVE to use a respirator unless you want to be short of breath the last 10 years of your life.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/19/2007 : 11:59:39

Yup--you're probably gonna be doing some cutting from inside the hull or on some odd angle. Glass fibers are much the same as asbestos fibers in the lungs--the lungs permanently encapsulate them, leaving less room for air (known as asbestosis).

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tinob
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Response Posted - 02/19/2007 : 15:09:06

One last "YAGOTTA" Bruce,

YAGOTTA use a for real respirator not one of those little dust masks that mount with a little rubberband over the top of your head and come twelve for $3.99 at Home Depot. Get yourself an industrial dual element face/head enclosed respirator, and for three or four bucks get a full head cover (disposable). Gempler Catalog has quite a selection catering to those who work with hasmat stuff. ... ya can offset the cost ( $20 )of the mask by using it for TRICK OR TREATING.

Like others have mentioned that stuff can drive you crazy itching when its on your skin, imagine what it will do internally.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT, # 3936, PATCHOGUE, n.y.

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 02/19/2007 : 16:17:21

Sorry, one more. I don't think anyone was clear enough. Including me. When the fibers (even nearly microscopic in size) enter your lungs, THEY WILL NEVER GET OUT. You can't cough them out, they cannot be removed surgically. There's no medication that gets rid of them. They imbed themselves in the alveoli and essentially make those alveoli stop functioning properly. Ya know those people that pull the little oxygen bottle around behind them? Ask them about living with chronic lung disease. Makes a good respirator look downright cheap. OK, I'll shut up now.

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existentialsailor
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Response Posted - 02/19/2007 : 16:21:42

and if you have beard, you need to shave it off when using a respirator.

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Response Posted - 02/20/2007 : 22:13:04

I do have a respirator that I use for sanding the bottom paint off. It has two filters which are replaceable. I think it is a 3M brand but I will check it out tomorrow. Have only made a few cuts on the rudder and it does make a fair amount of dust. Have stopped cutting untill I get this resolved. Did not realize this stuff was as bad as asbestose

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Response Posted - 02/21/2007 : 02:49:50

A few more bits from the hazmat crowd. Do not skimp on eye protection. I suggest you use a swimming goggle style of glasses. The glass gan imbed itself into your eyes as well. A well placed fan can remove most of the dust around you and should be used.

Tom.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 02/21/2007 : 11:50:38

BRUCE

Perhaps the fellow on the swap meet forum has come up with a solution to your problem, sell it cheep there, who knows maybe someone's in need of a hull. Might be an interesting bay boat fishing skiff, sleep over, type thing. Here about some folks dump their unwanted boats at the town launching ramps where they don't stay long before someone sees a use for them.

Homes for the homeless perhaps

beats sleeping under a blue tarp along the RR tracks. Last night one froze to death doing just that.

Val on the hard DAGNABIT # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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