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redviking
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Initially Posted - 02/02/2007 : 16:35:34

I bought the riding sail kit from SailRite and put it together. Easy peasey! The instructions were very good, the kit came with three times the materials required - so I have material left over to replace some dodger windows. A great way to learn to sew heavy material.

Has anyone used a riding sail, and if so, where did you sheet it to? The mast? or to the handrail?

Sten

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 02/02/2007 : 17:16:33

Sten,
I used the same Sail Rite kit and built a riding sail a couple years ago. It really helps, although it don't eliminate all the hunting it does stop a lot of it. I attach mine just above the split back stay, but that's on the 250. There was a good article I read in the January 2007 "Sail" magazine that discussed different ways to attach the sail.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/02/2007 : 17:57:35

Thanks! But where did you sheet it to? The sail will be attached to the backstay, but to be effective it must be "sheeted" forward and typically off to one side or the other so that the wind pressure on the riding sail balances out the effects of the wind on the vessel itself. Sheeting to the mast will probably dampen hunting, but will not be as effective as a riding sail sheeted to one side slightly.

Sten

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 02/02/2007 : 18:32:44

The angle of the backstay/sail allows for the sheet to run in a straight line to the bottom of my lifeline stanchion beside the mast. There is a small eye welded on that stanchion for the baby stay to hook to when raising the mast, that eye works good to sheet off to. I've heard too that the sail works best when sheeted to one side of the boat or the other and not the middle. My anchor rode runs off the starboard side so I sheet the riding sail off on the port, seems to work the best for me.

I have a CDI furler which frees up my jib halyard, so I just swing the halyard around the spreader and use it to hoist the riding sail.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 02/02/2007 : 18:39:38

Mine sheets to the base of the stanchion next to the mast on my 250. You'll want the riding sail to be flat, so take the sheet forward and see where the best sheeting angle takes you. And as you said, not on the boat's centerline.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 02/02/2007 : 21:06:17

FYI, I visited the Sailrite store in Fort Lauderdale today looking to get some twistlock fasteners for my new boom tent.

Eric runs the store, was really helpful and clearly knows his stuff. I was impressed by the level of his customer service and knowledge of the tools and materials.

While there I puchased the twistlocks, grommets, and a book on rigging and tuning - lots of pics

I was suprised at the low cost of the materials in store.

Paul.

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Nautiduck
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Response Posted - 02/03/2007 : 20:58:44

Which size did you get from Sailrite? I would guess the 12.5sf one but would the 20sf be even more effective or overkill? Looks like a good first-time sewing project.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 : 07:03:28

12.5 sf and I do believe it is rated to boats in the 30 foot range. 20 sf seemed like overkill as you really don't want to go sailing, just point the boat straight. They give the dimensions online, so you could make one out of an old sail or something. The key is in the reinforcements at the corners. Comes with a stuff stack large enough to store the sheets.

Sten

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 02/04/2007 : 10:09:09

I bought my anchor riding sail from Gary Swenson with Ullman for 80 bucks when I ordered my new main.
I hank it onto my split backstay just above where the backstay splits from the single centerline stay to the two legs. I then run the tack line (I guesse you could call it that) to the attachment point on the mast used for the whisker pole.
I'm completely sold on the riding sail, and for 80 bucks delivered with a headsail, I don't want to learn how to sew.

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bear_tm4
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 00:38:11

? I just bought a Storm sail,its used, but not sure if will use it in its roll as a storm sail..having a furler, but was thinking of using it for a riding sail.
What do you think? I dont really want to cut it or anything, think could work in its current shape?

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 08:38:38

<font color="red"><font size="1">I just bought a Storm sail,its used, but not sure if will use it in its roll as a storm sail..having a furler, but was thinking of using it for a riding sail.
What do you think? I dont really want to cut it or anything, think could work in its current shape?
Capt.Bear, 83 C25 "Surprise" #4009
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I don't think so - I discovered that a riding sail is similar to a storm trysail - it is hanked on to the backstay instead of the mast, but the shape is similar.

I see ketch rigged vessels running the mizzen at anchor all of the time so who knows, but on a boat as small as ours anything much more than 12.5 sf will probably be too much.

Sten

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bear_tm4
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 10:55:54

sounds like it might work then...this trysail, its hanks on to the head stay. So only way it will work on boat is if I put slides on it so it go on my furler. It looks very similar to the riding sail in the picture above, but not as long along the foot, with a longer leeche. well have to give it try. Thanks for the input Sten. Any other comments please throw them my way.

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redviking
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Response Posted - 02/05/2007 : 11:18:03

Once, after blowing out my old genoa, my wife and I took an old 110 and pulled all of the brass hanks off of it and zip tied it loosely to the roller furling. It worked. Zip ties are amazingly strong - so you could try it that way....

sten

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