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RCarie
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Initially Posted - 01/16/2007 :  08:13:20  Show Profile
Is anybody out there using the double rope clutch from HALJEN / Garhauer Marine? Dimensions are: 6 1/4" long, by 3 3/4" tall, by 2 1/2" wide. I found it for sell on e-bay. I'm presently using a single Easylock Rope Clutch from Rig-Rite. I prefer customer recommendations over manufacturer, regardless of the price.

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Randy
C25 #5947

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  08:59:42  Show Profile
I have a set of stainless Garhauer clutches... work just fine, built like a tank.
The spinlock clutches are quite a bit lighter and more compact...
(have a pair of those on the other side).

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  10:27:38  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Bag of worms.
I like Spinlock at lot, the XAS series was reviewed as the best of the true clutches, you can pull through a closed clutch so they are closed when you use them. I use XAS0408 Multi role clutch for lines 4-8mm (5/32-5/16") for optimised clutching and holding power on small diameter lines 4-8mm (5/32-5/16"). My halyards are modern technology so they are 1/4" and this clutch will hold my 1/4" halyards well. The next size larger lets hard cover 1/4" lines slip. The bag of worms refers to the selection of halyards and whether or not you have upgraded already or are using old or (god forbid) original halyards. I.E. make sure you buy clutches that meet your future needs.
I am not a fan of Garhauer products.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  10:41:29  Show Profile
I agree with Frank--Spinlock is the best-of-breed, and be careful about line sizes when selecting a clutch.

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RCarie
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  12:19:46  Show Profile
I knew I would get a few comments from such a wide opened question. The feedback is very helpful. It makes me ask another question. Does the Garhauer Marine rope clutch allow the pull through when the clutch is closed? The reply from ClamBeach says the obvious. The dimensions for this product are about double the Easylock Rope Clutch by Rig-Rite, which is what I have now. And, yes all running rigging is being replaced again, with New England Ropes 3/8" Sta-Set Yacht Braid.
Thanks for the replies,
Randy
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  13:51:42  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Bag of worms
As a matter of personal preference I would not use 3/8" Sta-Set. I would not want the weight, bulk, nor stretch characteristics of that line as a halyard. My 89 has Lewmar 6 cabin top wenches which are very short, this is a photo of 1/4" medium-high-tech line rated at 4800lbs and virtually 0 stretch laying on the wench.


Sometimes I think I should have gotten the 5/16" but in truth the 1/4" has been flawless. Study up on the line that is available, by all means buy what you want.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  17:15:21  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by fhopper@mac.com</i>
<br />...My 89 has Lewmar 6 cabin top wenches which are very short, this is a photo...laying on the wench.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
I don't see her there--is she one of the short ones? (At 5'9", I don't like 'em too tall.)

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 01/16/2007 :  19:24:12  Show Profile
"It makes me ask another question. Does the Garhauer Marine rope clutch allow the pull through when the clutch is closed?"

The Garhauer design allows you to tighten the line by pulling through the clutch... but won't allow the line to pull back against the 'hold' directon. (common to most modern line clutch design)

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Champipple
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Response Posted - 01/17/2007 :  11:43:38  Show Profile  Visit Champipple's Homepage
One thing of note - different manufacturers have different directions that the clutch opens. Spinlock opens by pushing forward, some others open by pulling. Since in general the screw holes are not equidistant from the ends be sure to check the instructions and maybe even run some line through to double check before drilling.

It sounds really simple but I've seen a guy (not me) who had to re-glass the first set of holes because he didn't read the pamphlet and the clutch wound up to close to the winch.

I have spinlock clutches and haven't had a problem with them.

dw

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Bruce Baker
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Response Posted - 01/19/2007 :  07:57:19  Show Profile
I've got a pair of spinlock XAS clutches and Lewmar 7 winches. My only regret is using doubles instead of triples.

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