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BADAR2
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Initially Posted - 08/24/2006 : 09:03:46

My wife & I just bought a 77' with a fixed keel this spring to fix up and sail. I have been reading the forum weekly and have learned something everytime. The bottom portion up to the deck was just refinished. It was in pretty good shape but the deck is going to need repainted after the small repairs to the fiberglass. The white paint used before chalks and comes off on everything. My 2 part question is -1. do you think it will have to be stripped and 2. what tpye or make of paint have people had success with? Someone told me to use gel coat

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 09:32:17

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BADAR2
 The white paint used before chalks and comes off on everything.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Are you sure that's paint? It's common for the original gelcoat to chalk on an older boat--most paints chip and peel. That's one reason to try restoring your gelcoat before you resort to paint--it might come back better than you expect, and there's probably enough still there to rub it down. Medium-duty compound should remove the chalk and will also bring back some of the color if you have colored non-skid areas. Depending on the size and number of your fiberglass repairs, it might be easiest to apply some gelcoat patch to them alone, and then lightly sand to feather it in. I'd seriously consider trying that, and then painting only if it isn't satisfactory.

IMHO, the problem with painting a deck is that you'll be fighting chips and peeling forever after.

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BADAR2
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 09:37:03

Thanks Dave for the advice, I'll try some compound on it this weekend.
Herb

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 12:43:35

Hi Herb, I also have a 1977 and when I got the boat, it was really bad everywhere I looked. The chalk got on everything. The first think I did was scrub it down with soft scrub and that knocked most of it off. I just wash the deck now and don't have any chalking. On the haul I used Poliglow.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 13:35:12

Soft scrub rocks, and you use a scrub brush which seems much easier than a rag and compound..

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 21:36:24

Poli Glow rocks, too--last multiple years! I won't argue against Soft-Scrub--just be aware that the version with bleach will get your clothes...

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djn
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 21:38:03

my topdeck is flat white without chalk after softscrubing it. No shine which is great. Cheers.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 22:37:26

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 my topdeck is flat white without chalk after softscrubing it. No shine which is great. Cheers.
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Bingo

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StSimon
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Response Posted - 08/24/2006 : 23:01:58

You guys are using Poliglow on the topsides and not the deck right?

What are you using on the deck to preserve the clean after using Soft Scrub? Poliglow would make everything pretty but a little slick on the deck.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 08/25/2006 : 11:07:45

The deck on my 1979 was stripped bare of gel coat in several large areas. I saw no alternative other than to paint. I have painted a deck before with good results. It IS a pain in the behind. The deal with paint is that you have to accept the fact that from now forward you will be touching it up. And finding places that you missed. I have used Interlux Brightsides with the non-skid mixture with fairly good results, but I really feel that painting should be the last resort after everything else fails. There is a time and place for painting, but it is far down the list.

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 08/27/2006 : 12:13:22

On my 77 I repainted the nonskid using Pettit Topides with an additive to dull the finish. Two things I would do differently if I were doing it again: I would use a thinner degreaser on the whole area to be painted prior to painting, and I would use paint from a different manufacturer. Long story short, I used the dulling agent as per instuctions and it didnt work. Lost the whole quart of paint. Pettit offered some solutions, but none worked. They weren't too interested in my time constraints either. They finally sent me a replacement quart of paint which arrived the day before I left on a month cruise. The dulling agent additive arrived 3 months later.
Be prepared to do touch up annually. Good luck

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mashedcat
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Response Posted - 08/27/2006 : 12:17:08

ps...I did use thinner on the whole area before i painted, but I dont think regular thinner is the proper wash prior to painting. Pettit and West Marine offered very little help. I found out more reading Interlux stuff just in general

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 08/29/2006 : 11:06:11

I scrub with soap and water first, then sand the smooth areas around the non-skid, then wash the whole thing with acetone. (rubber gloves, please) I have used Interlux paint, flattening agent and non-skid additive purchased from Defender with good results. You have to use a lot more of the flattening agent than you might think to get it dull enough, and you almost need two workers when painting,, because the paint with non-skid needs almost constant stirring to keep it in suspension. I say again, painting can work, but it is a last choice alternative.

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PamC
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 10:11:17

I'll second the "painting as a last option" comments. We had also lost gelcoat in several spots on our 1980. We painted it this past spring with Pettit EasyPoxy. We prepped by repairing the worst of the gelcoat cracks, followed by sanding them flat. Then starting with the top of the pop top we took one section at a time. We would clean the surface with Simple Green & water, followed with acetone, then mask around the non skid, paint it with a coat of primer, sprinkle silica sand on it, let it dry, apply a coat of paint, remove the mask, paint the entire section (smooth & non skid), let it dry, apply a second coat. Each coat is supposed to dry for a day. And it should be done between 55 to 90 degrees or something like that. It seemed to take forever. I do love our new non skid, it's very non skid. But we will have to maintain paint now. If your gelcoat is intact, get it cleaned up and take care of it and you'll be happier.

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tinob
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Response Posted - 08/30/2006 : 11:00:33

Cool Picture Andy, how did you manage that?

Val (pictureless)on Calista # 3936, Patchogue, N.Y.

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