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DaveC25
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Initially Posted - 08/21/2006 : 16:29:17

Hey Guys...

I've been enjoying my boat but I've grown tired of looking at her patched up hull. I've decided it'll time to paint her in the near future.

For anyone who's done this, how much paint do I need to get to cover the hull (above water)?

I have some deck paint with anti-skid compound which I'm going to put on soon, but I still need to buy the hull paint.

Thanks,

-DaveC25

1979 Catalina 25 "Pretty Penny" #1166
Palm Bay, Florida

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/21/2006 : 19:18:21

I painted my previous boat using Easypoxy... came out ok. Not show quality, but ok and looks fine from a few feet away.

If you're brushing, you need two people working, one rolling on with a foam roller, the second 'tipping' with a foam brush. It's very easy to lose the wet edge when trying to do it by yourself.

Based on my prior experience, a couple quarts will do a C25.

As with any painting, preparation is everything.
I'd be inclined to fair/sand the hull and use a primer-filler as appropriate for your paint, especially if changing color or using a dark color (which will show every flaw).

Sterling and Awlgrip are the big names in 'professional' boat paint, but I don't think they lend themselves to application with a brush.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/21/2006 : 22:14:44

Realistically with a 79 boat you might consider taking it to Earl Schiebe and be done with it.

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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 08/22/2006 : 09:28:06

>"Realistically with a 79 boat... "

Harrumph!

Seriously speaking, with a bit of elbow grease and not a whole lot of money our boats can be made into real gems that are (IMHO) irreplacable in todays market.

Not sure that I'd trade mine up for a new 250, Hunter etc... I think the older design is more seaworthy and I prefer the traditional cabin design to the newer 'open' floor plan. The late model C25 has some nice features, but none that are critical to my usage.

That rant over, most any money put into a boat is a 'sunk cost' (no pun) and you'll likely never get back more than a dime on a dollar... be it invested on a newer or older boat.

The fact is that 'simply messing about in boats' is an end unto itself.
Labor of the heart.

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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 08/22/2006 : 10:28:52

Ouch! Did not mean to offend, merely advise against sinking too much money into one of our boats. If car painters can paint a Corvette (fiberglass)then I would think they could paint a hull and would do a good job for a very reasonable price. It would be more than doing it yourself but would probably come out better.

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 08/22/2006 : 12:51:04

I painted (roll and tip), my 1979 C25, SR FK last summer. Gelcoat was very faded and it had a very long name down the sides. Tried everything to remove name and shadows without luck, and decided, what the Heck I'd paint it. I've done it once before on a different boat. Sanded it down with an orbital sander, spent a lot of time taping and the wife and I put on one coat one morning, I let it set for two days and sanded it the next day and we put on a second coat the fifth day. Came out fine. Not like spray, got a run here and there, but I figure she's an old lady, she deserves an drip and a sag here and there.
Having read that, it sounds simpler than it was.. Actually, lemmessee: 1. sanded everything. 2.taped off the white part above the sheer stripe and painted that. Two coats, two days. (sanded early AM between coats.) 3. taped off sheer stripe--big job, lots of ladder moving, two strips of tape around whole boat. painted two coats, sanding between. 4.taped off boot topping stripe and sheer stripe so we could paint hull proper. Two coats on hull. Wife helped with roll and tip That's where the five day part came in. I decided to let it cook for two days before sanding. 5. Taped off boot topping stripe and painted it. 6. Taped off boot topping stripe and painted bottom. Wow. Sounds worse than it was, just time consuming. I'm retired. That helps.
If I recall correctly, I bought one gallon of Interlux Brightsides which was plenty for the hull, but not enough for the deck. You will need more than two quarts, that's for sure, and three quarts costs about as much as a gallon. Defender is cheaper than West for paint. However, you do need the foam rollers, which are hard to find. I know that West has them, but unsure about Defender. You'd think they would. For foam brushes, beware. Wal-Mart used to carry the good ones, but at least at my local store they have changed suppliers and the ones they have now are crummy. The little local hardware store still has the good ones, as do Michael's and Hobby Lobby.
Sorry for the length of this. Hope it helps.

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pegasus
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Response Posted - 08/23/2006 : 07:22:29

How did you paint your fin keel - on jackstands or the trailer? I've got to repaint the bottom and patch and paint some gelcoat nicks on my fin keel. I don't have a trailer but believe I can rent/borrow one.

Also, does spraying give a better finish?

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DaveC25
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Response Posted - 08/23/2006 : 09:48:37

I have painted cars before with good results. I am still deciding whether or not to spray the paint or roll and tip it. I'm not looking to put her in a show, but her hull has green filler (from where some deep scratches were repaired) against the off-white gelcoat and she would look better painted than left as she is. I don't want to spend alot of money on her, but paint costs less than a new boat. :) As long as she looks good from a distance that's fine with me.

-DaveC25

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crcalhoon
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Response Posted - 08/23/2006 : 10:45:01

I painted my fin keel on jack stands. Could have done it on a trailer, but I don't have one and the yard couldn't spare theirs for that long. Be careful placing the jack stands, you see, there is this little impeller thingy that sticks out and well. . .my old knowmeter was busted anyhow. If I were more confident with spraying, I might have sprayed. The yard here sprays bottoms. But spraying really calls for some serious masking and preparation and care not only for your boat but for others nearby. It can be a problem. For bottom paint, I really think that rolling is about as good as spraying and probably gives better coverage, but that's just an opinion an maybe wrong.

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stampeder
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Response Posted - 08/23/2006 : 11:39:43

When I painted my bottom, I phoned Interlux directly....after listening to advice on this forum and from my local paint retailer. They gave me excellent advice and I would highly recommend calling their toll free line or the toll free line for whichever manufacturer you choose and telling them exactly what your situation is - they'll give you situation specific information about how to get the best results.

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