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Lightnup
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Initially Posted - 05/08/2006 : 09:02:19

Since the bow faces into the breeze when we are anchored, wouldn't it make sense for the forward panels of the pop-top cover to have the same window/screen combinations that the side panels have? Like a hatch windscoop, any breeze coming in those front screens would hit the aft panel of the cover and be directed down into the cabin. Make sense?

This occured to me as I was laying in the humid, breezeless quarterberth as my wife in the v-berth was telling me about the gentle breeze she was feeling through the hatch....that wasn't reaching back to me.

Think I'll investigate what a canvas expert might charge to add window/screen combo's in those forward panels.

Steve

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 09:33:04

Would the raised cabin top lid prevent air flow?

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 10:05:33

Not on a C25. The whole top lifts almost straight up and is supported by four corner struts. There is nothing to hinder airflow but the mast. This pic shows a C22 but the poptop works the same on a C25

Steve

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 11:08:40

Hi Steve, the other thing you might consider is putting opening ports in the Q-birth. I think the problem might be that there is no air path back to you. Put one or two ports back there and the air would have a path to travle. Cheers.

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 14:57:20

Your theory sounds good. Is there a reason you need to put the cover on? Once the weather gets warm enough to need that breeze we just leave the top up & open at night. At 5000 ft altitude that'll be another couple of months.

If it's for bugs, your idea should be a solution. If it's for privacy, try putting a bag over your head

Just getting back for your Sea Ray suggestion

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 14:58:44

Hi Pam, here is Michigan on the great lakes, there are sooooooo many bugs. The pop top curtain is a neccessity. Cheers.

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 18:00:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lightnup
 This occured to me as I was laying in the humid, breezeless quarterberth as my wife in the v-berth was telling me about the gentle breeze she was feeling through the hatch....that wasn't reaching back to me.
Steve
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How about rigging an athwartship queen-sized berth in the main salon where the breeze goes by and the two of you can.... you know.... be together.

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 19:51:18

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by djn
 Hi Pam, here is Michigan on the great lakes, there are sooooooo many bugs. The pop top curtain is a neccessity. Cheers.
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Some have used mosquito/no-seeum nets thrown over the poptop to keep the bugs out.

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 19:57:09

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Lightnup
 Since the bow faces into the breeze when we are anchored, wouldn't it make sense for the forward panels of the pop-top cover to have the same window/screen combinations that the side panels have? Like a hatch windscoop, any breeze coming in those front screens would hit the aft panel of the cover and be directed down into the cabin. Make sense?<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I haven't used my pop-top cover in awhile, but I would think you could just unsnap the forward portion and prop it open with a fender or someting. The cover stretches forward a bit and I would think that if it rained you would still be dry even with it propped open.

Just a thought.

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 20:16:02

"How about rigging an athwartship queen-sized berth in the main salon where the breeze goes by and the two of you can.... you know.... be together."

Dave: We thought about the athwartship bed but, 1. I'm taller than the cabin is wide, 2. we don't want to mess with tearing down and putting up the bed every day that we're out and wouldn't want to crawl over it to get to the head, 3. we'd probably just fight over who gets to sleep closer to the v-berth and, 4. after 34 years of marriage we can both wait until we get back home to... you know.... be together.

Pam: We're only 4,994 feet lower than you (our home's foundation is at 6' above sea level), but the mosquitos and "no-see-ums" are unbearable during certain parts of the year, making the poptop cover a must. Of course, the good news is that we don't have to shovel white stuff during other parts of the year. At 5,000 ft, I'm surprised you need a cooler at all, why not just put your food in a waterproof case and drag it behind you in the chilly lake water?

Steve

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 20:26:44

Don - you're exactly right...the front could be unsnapped and laid back on top of the poptop - except for the bugs. We usually have a light on inside the cabin at night before going to bed and the number of bugs that the light attracts on the outside of the screens is amazing.

Steve

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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 20:36:54

Mosquito netting/tent over the pop top.

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boatgt
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Response Posted - 05/08/2006 : 23:46:07

I have 2 pop top curtins. One is stock and the other has screen with roll up vinyl panels. Seems like this could be easily done to the front of the curtin. I may even alter mine to see how it works.
Gene

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Lightnup
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Response Posted - 05/09/2006 : 08:52:23

Gene - I wonder if the one in the pic is an early version with the "windows" on the outside rather than inside. In my opinion, the screening on the upper area of the aft panels should be on the forward panels instead - again, because the bow faces into the wind when anchored.

If you alter yours, please post pics and let us know whether it makes a difference in the cabin air movement.

Steve

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Response Posted - 05/10/2006 : 20:32:34

I will post some pictures when I do. I thought at first that someone had altered this top but after looking at CD I wonder if this is the w/screen version? The one pictured was with an older boat I put this on my 81 FK/TR and the only difference I found was some of the snaps didn't line up. Still seemed to be the same size.
Gene

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Response Posted - 05/10/2006 : 21:57:38

Two threads, same ideas...

Some of my snaps don't line up, resulting in some tearing. So I have to get it fixed, and the guy I talked to at a local upholstery shop said he could put opening windows in for me. He suggested cutting flaps with velcro closures and with a netting flap, both accesable from the inside.
I'll post pictures as soon as its done.

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