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Arlyn Stewart
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Initially Posted - 05/02/2006 :  08:14:29  Show Profile  Visit Arlyn Stewart's Homepage
The 250 has been included in a modern class of boats called clorox bottles because they have no exterior teak dressing.

I noted the following words over on the Trailer Sailor Board from Ray Henry, who is refurbishing a Nimble Kodiac, "I just got finished REMOVING every bit of teak from the outside of my boat." He was not meaning, to refinish it.

So... how do others feel about no exterior teak on the 250?


Arlyn C-250 W/B #224

N/E Texas and Great Lakes
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  09:13:08  Show Profile
I love my clorox bottle. You can keep all the outside teak and the work that goes with it.

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Dkn420
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  10:33:40  Show Profile
Jerry is absolutely right...I have friends who sail larger boats with exterior teak and that is something they are always working on and refinishing...white and blue canvas is alright with me...Dan #727

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Russ.Johnson
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  11:41:20  Show Profile
I have a hard enough time keeping up with the inside teak.

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RSHOOTER
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  12:06:45  Show Profile
Before my C250 I had a custom built Menger 19. I spent way too much time on the Teak which was everywhere including the Rub Rail and the funny thing is the Teak never again looked as good as it did at the Boat Show! I don't miss it.

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s3tbuell
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  13:06:32  Show Profile
One of the things I love about 250s is the lack of maintenance outside. I want to enjoy every minute I can on the boat. Working on wood is not why I bought a boat. I have a life. I do love to look wood boats but it’s not for me. Every hour they spend sanding vanishing or oiling is an hour I am sailing!!

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jking
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  13:25:27  Show Profile
I love the look. Mine is about to acquire some exterior teak, though,in the form of a stern staff for an ensign. I plan to mount this using a flag mount from WM, on the aft wall of the fuel locker with a generous backing plate (probably treated wood.)

Plan on taking pictures of the new boat soon; neither the weather nor work has been great for sailing since delivery.

John

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suttergold
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  14:19:04  Show Profile
Having owned two Catalina 22's over the years, and having spend countless hours removing, striping, sanding and treating the teak with Cetrol, I would never consider having another boat with exterior teak. I love my 250 for that reason.

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cathluk
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  15:35:03  Show Profile
I loved having no teak! Our new (to us) Pearson has a teak toerail & handrails which is way more teak than I ever wanted.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  15:37:04  Show Profile  Visit AADIVER's Homepage
I was actually considering teak handrails for my cabin pop top, but now that my main is loose footed I have a boom to grab on to. Thank y'all for the loose foot tip(s)

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  16:09:08  Show Profile
I love teak. It can really make a boat look nice when it's taken care of. That's the problem with teak, you need to take care of it. It took some time getting use to not having teak topsides but I did. The only teak I have outside is a teak board mounted on the rail for my dinghy kicker motor. I try to make up for the lack of teak topside by putting more teak below. I've replace the fiddles around the galley, built a teak table and teak shelf's and added a few other teak items. I'm content now. However recently I was tempted, I was moving winches around and the thought of making some teak winch pads crossed my mind. I caught myself in time.

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zeil
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Response Posted - 05/02/2006 :  22:07:06  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Arlyn Stewart</i>
<br />The 250 has been included in a modern class of boats called clorox bottles because they have no exterior teak dressing<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Also called TUPPER WARE in our nick of the woods. Regardless I love teak on the inside and minimum maintenance work on the outside...

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tomara
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Response Posted - 05/03/2006 :  10:47:21  Show Profile
C250s look sleek:
Without exterior teak.
With interior teak.

C250s minimize labor:
Without exterior teak.
With interior teak.






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Jim-Jill_Austin_TX
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Response Posted - 05/03/2006 :  14:49:51  Show Profile
Being a new C250 owner...It's the CLEAN SLICK look that makes it Kool!

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At Ease
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Response Posted - 05/04/2006 :  08:39:03  Show Profile
On some of the Catalinas they are using stainless steel for handrails. Looks great, no maint.

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Response Posted - 05/04/2006 :  08:39:58  Show Profile
On some of the Catalinas they are using stainless steel for handrails. Looks great, no maint.

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bill bosworth
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Response Posted - 05/04/2006 :  19:09:10  Show Profile
I love to work with wood, build cabinets and furniture, but having it on deck I can do without.
Bill C250wb #134 Serendipity

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 05/04/2006 :  20:09:25  Show Profile
I think exterior teak is to boats what chrome is to cars, a nice detail that catches the eye. (The last Vette I really liked was the '72 with its front and rear chrome bumpers)

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528
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Response Posted - 05/05/2006 :  08:22:20  Show Profile
In the spirit of Cinco de Mayo, No way Jose. Everything is a tradeoff and I trade sailing time for a higher maintanence classic look. Kind of like the eye candy on your arm, by time she is all made up, it's too late to go anywhere! A safe season to all.

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Tradewind
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Response Posted - 05/05/2006 :  11:37:47  Show Profile
After 26 years of caring for the brightwork on an old Cal 36 I discovered that a day nice enough to varnish was also nice enough to sail. So I sailed. I don't think I ever had all the brightwork done at the same time, sometimes it was the coamings and handrails, other times it was bow sprit and toerails and companionway.

I'm very satisfied with the lack of teak on the 250, as well as some of the other Catalina line. I love the stainless handrails.

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Turk
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Response Posted - 05/05/2006 :  21:46:57  Show Profile  Visit Turk's Homepage
I guess it's all in how you look at it. Several months ago I read an editorial from Bob Bitchin about varnishing teak. His additude about it is that it has become therapy for him and a thing of enjoyment knowing that the finished product would certainly give one a feeling of accomplishment. When I owned my Cat 22 with teak hatchboards, tiller and handrails, I spent several months over the winter sanding and varnishing and getting them just right. Yep, a good feeling when they are done. It takes patients and a "no rush" approach to get it right. It does give you a feeling of accomplishment when it's done.

Here's a look:

http://www.elmhurstprop.com/kitty/webad/misskitty.htm

My wife just surprised me the other day with an early birthday present. One board! Well, one 6 x 1 x 8 (5.3 board feet) plank of very nice teak! About $135 here in Ohio! It will become my new "smaller" salon table. Just plained it down and ready to joint it together. Shape it, route a nice edge into it, sand it and 6-8 coats of captain's varnish. Ahhh - see it's that feeling again!

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zeil
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Response Posted - 05/06/2006 :  11:23:09  Show Profile
Turk
ah ... having your wife buy you the teak is real therapy... you lucky guy!

BTW the price you paid for the teak is about the same in Vancouver BC where it fetches $28.45 CAN per board feet. But why varnish and not oil twice a month if you have too??

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