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Anyone have the new Tohatsu 9.8?

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Bubba
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Initially Posted - 04/13/2006 : 20:27:39

I'm considering the new Tohatsu 9.8 outboard and wondered if anyone has mounted one directly to the transom of a C-250. If so, I'd like to know if you can turn it. Does it clear the sides of the well? I don't have any kind of extra outboard bracket now and was hoping not to have to add one.

Dave & Deb

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/13/2006 : 21:50:30

Hi Dave (owner of the longest URL in their sig of the entire membership :)

we got the 2005 model of the tohatsu 9.8 outboard and love it (so far..)

It is installed (with padlock) directly to the transom on the stbd side.
The only issue we have with it is that it has struck the tiller twice (ok, the prop was turning so it is more like 100 times!)

We now use the softlink to cause it to steer with the rudder (no tiller, we have the wheel) and it works great, but you have to be aware of the risk of the motor and the rudder meeting. That leaves a mark you will remember.

The only other issue is the difficulty of raising the motor! It is a mega pain!
Might be easier on a tiller boat, but reaching down to set or release the moter hold up catch is awkward to say the least.

It runs really well!

Paul

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 00:20:09

Likewise, a very good motor. Bought it from onlineoutboards.com for $1,900.00, no sales tax, no delivery charge, excellent customer support. To facilitate raising it up, there's a way to attach a bungee and a control line to the tilt lever. Check out Arlyn Stewart's modification site for details. I'll take a picture of mine tomorrow and post it for you.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 18:21:17

Here's the setup for adjusting the hard-to-reach tilt arm. Rigged this way, the motor pulls up out of the water without having to manually activate the arm. To lower the engine, simply pull on the cord.

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 04/14/2006 : 20:53:01

Paul, that mega-URL used to wrap better on the old site. Kinda throws everything off doesn't it. Gotta find something cool and <u>short</u>.

Frank, your tilt release looks like the one I have on my current 8 hp Nissan/Tohatsu. I'll have to try out your mod.

I gather from both of you that the motor can be turned without bumping into the sides of the well. I had to [url="http://mywebpages.comcast.net/davendeb/misc/ob_high.jpg"]grind off a piece of my current outboard[/url] so I could steer it more than about 5 degrees. With the new model having the shift lever on the front, I was afraid it would be in the way.

Edited by - Bubba on 04/14/2006 20:55:00

AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/15/2006 : 23:46:21

Hey, Bubba, here's a mod of yours I don't understand. How do "mast gates" improve reefing?

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 04/16/2006 : 19:33:57

Frank, I think it really comes down to personal preference. Since I take the mainsail off only once a year, I prefer the mast gates. When I douse the main, the sail slides come all the way down to the boom. See the little hole in the sail track, just above the opening, in the left picture? That's where the stop screw was. Before I installed the mast gates, all the slides stacked up above that.

Reefing without mast gates:
You have your lowest sail slide on a jack line so the luff doesn't hang up on the stop screw thus allowing you to pull the reef tack all the way down to the boom.

Reefing with mast gates:
Your lowest sail slide can be sewn on, just like the others, and slide all the way down (through the mast gates) to the boom when you reef.

My jack line was always catching on the slide stop screw whenever I raised the main (it had a big knob on it). I suppose I could have replaced the stop screw with something that didn't stick out so much, but I like how the sail flakes close to the boom now that the slides come all the way down.

If you take the main off a lot, I wouldn't recommend the mast gates because you'll be unscrewing one side every time you want to remove the main.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/16/2006 : 20:03:15

I copied this off a mast gate website. Will these gates work on a 250?

http://www.blumhorst.com/potterpages/Photopoint/mastgates-

Edited by - AADIVER on 04/16/2006 20:07:13

frog0911
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Response Posted - 04/16/2006 : 22:36:25

Frank, they work the same on the 250, except you only need one. Only one side of the mast is milled open on the 250.

Edited by - frog0911 on 04/16/2006 22:37:45

dlucier
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Response Posted - 04/16/2006 : 22:49:33

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/16/2006 : 23:46:26

Per the pics I posted above (from Bubba's site), the slug removal slot is milled on BOTH sides of the track, requiring two gates (sold as a pair by CD for 32 bucks plus 7 for shipping)

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 07:01:49

Frank, during the manufacture of the 250 things continually change, as has been mentioned many times before by much smarter people than me. Bubba's boat is #270 an earlier model and has two slots, mine however is #743 and has one slot. I don't know at what number the change was done, but I would suggest you look at your mast and see if it is one or two and that is how many gates you need to make the modification.

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AADIVER
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 11:17:06

Thank you, fellow PRETTY PENNY, I just checked and my slot is a single. Should've checked before ordering from CD. I think they're only sold in pairs for 32 bucks plus shipping, but I've e-mailed 'em to ammend the order for just one and hope they'll send me a single for half the bucks. Measure twice, cut once

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 14:28:06

I needed both sides for mine #321. I bought my gates through Joe, I called Catalina Direct and they told me they didn't have them for the 250. So I sent Joe and e-mail and he ask if I needed one or two gates. After I placed my order with him, Catalina Direct called me back to tell me they now have them for 250's, go figure... I believe CD sends a TAP and Die with their kit which is nice.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 19:05:47

double sided on #841

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Tom Potter
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 19:37:35

Seems we highjacked Bubba's outboard motor thread... Sorry Bubba

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Bubba
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Response Posted - 04/17/2006 : 20:14:59

No problem with the thread. I got the answer I needed right away. Maybe I was able to partially return the favor.

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