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Robb
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Initially Posted - 09/25/2022 :  21:44:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm likely going to need to have my boat (250 WK) crane lifted onto its trailer for winter storage. Water level is dropping to the point where I wont be able to float it onto the trailer. (Please no laughing 250 WB swing keel owners). Luckily the local yacht club is having their annual haul out day at the end of Oct. In order to participate I'll need to identify the sling locations. Since our boats dont have bulkheads it doesnt seem as straight forward as some boats. Does anyone have any suggestions or experience with this or can you point me to where I can find the sling locations? I could try to contact Catalina tech services if required. Thanks!

Robb
2004 C250 WK hull# 739

zeil
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Response Posted - 09/26/2022 :  13:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I'll post a photo of the exact location for the slings, forward and aft, sometime tonight

Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)
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zeil
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Response Posted - 09/27/2022 :  19:40:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Here are two images displaying sling locations both forward and aft
I'm assuming that the sling locators are Catalina factory supplied and came with the boat on hull #499 wing keel built in 2000
Hope this helps...

By the way, the boat was SOLD yesterday to a very nice new owner who also lives in this area. There are strong indications that he will join our association and make use of the collective pool of knowledgeable and experienced C250 boat owners


Indicators located just aft of the cabin


Indicators are located just forward of the cabin


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)
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dmarion
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Response Posted - 09/29/2022 :  06:09:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are those points the same on a 250WB?

Daniel Marion
Zendo
Cat 250 WB 2001 Hull #592
Valleyfield, QC,
Canada
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zeil
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Response Posted - 09/29/2022 :  14:02:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We've used pretty well the same locations for our Water Ballast versions...

The reasoning for those locations is that both points seem to offer the most resistance given the forward inside settee cross partition and V berth while the aft galley's counter and head's back partition will help withstand any inward sling pressures.

Besides, the overall weight is about 1200 lbs less provided an empty ballast tank.

If the boat is to be lifted out of the water you may wish to consider "blowing", first the tank empty or near empty by using a Coleman air mattress pump or something similar...

The center board should be in a down position although I'm not sure it matters much


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)

Edited by - zeil on 09/29/2022 14:03:44
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dmarion
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Response Posted - 10/03/2022 :  06:09:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Only once was my boat lifted with a crane. Once in the air, the cable that holds the keel just snapped and the keel came down with a bang. Fortunately there was no damage. I was also worried about the pressure on the seams of the ballast against the sides. I had a leak but it could have been the result of something else. Unless very necessary, no more lifting with a crane.

Daniel Marion
Zendo
Cat 250 WB 2001 Hull #592
Valleyfield, QC,
Canada
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zeil
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Response Posted - 10/03/2022 :  09:34:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Glad no one got hurt when the keel cable let go. You're are right, it's much better to let the keel (centerboard), down.

The ballast tank to hull joints have a good reputation and very seldom leak unless of course exposed to point loads or other adverse severe conditions.

Case in point, our first '95 hull #151, C250WB traveled 25.000 km (17.000 miles), on the bed of its trailer over often rough washboards roads without ill effects.

We have great appreciation for the solidness of the design and execution.


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)
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Robb
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Response Posted - 10/04/2022 :  06:02:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henk, thanks so much for the info on sling locations. Fingers crossed that all goes well. Since its a wing and there are keel guides on the trailer, it will need to be hoisted and them moved forward. Only other challenge is that I have a 40 liter internal diesel tank thats half full just inside the transom under the cockpit floor that I dont want to drain really. I'll take some pics. Cheers

Robb
2004 C250 WK hull# 739
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zeil
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Response Posted - 10/04/2022 :  14:57:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Success with launching your boat... take your time and double check everything. Your fuel tank should not make a difference. Most store 20 to 40 liters aboard.

Take photos and tell us how things went before, during and after


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)
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Khaine
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Response Posted - 11/02/2022 :  06:31:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm not OP but I wanted to share that I used the sling points identified by zeil last weekend on my first crane haul out and everything went smoothly. Thank you Henk and everyone else on this forum. It's been a fantastic resource for this relatively new sailor.

Photo available here: https://imgur.com/a/WvjQdUc



2002 Catalina 250 WK
Lake Ontario
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zeil
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Response Posted - 11/03/2022 :  16:31:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Thank you Khaine... glad all went well. Where in Canada are you located?

We'd hope that you become an active and regular participant of this forum


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)
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RPLieser
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Response Posted - 11/04/2022 :  10:20:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henk,

Do those sling marks appear in the gelcoat?

I'm contemplating launching via travel lift, the forward location will work, but with trailer bunks, the aft pickup point will be just under the catbird seats... thoughts anyone?

Patrick Lieser

C250WK #973
Knot My Fault III
Avila Beach, CA

(PO of C250WB #312)

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zeil
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Response Posted - 11/04/2022 :  11:54:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The sling point stickers (not in the gel coat) on C250WK hull #499 appear only on the starboard side.

Once, when a sling for lift-in was required, the operator lifted the bow just high enough to allow the stern sling to be inserted between bunk and hull.

At that time I was apprehensive of that method and concerned about hull point loads around the last trailer bunk support and overhanging wood bunks but it went well with no ill consequences.


Henk & Johanna
"Floating", a few off your "barnacles".
"Someday Lady" '95 C250WB #151 ('03 - 2016)
"Sea ye" 30ft Bayliner (04-2018 - 09-2018)
"Mariah" '96 C250WB #191 (2019...
"Lady J" '00 C250WK #499 (05-2021 - 09-2022)

Edited by - zeil on 11/05/2022 15:32:42
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CGSC_Gaviota
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Response Posted - 11/11/2022 :  08:39:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/a5qaFm8TNmAm5g5u5

Just getting ready for the season to start! Google photo's doesn't play nice with the forum.
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