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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 10/09/2003 :  08:28:54  Show Profile
I'm in the home stretch installing my new furling system.

When I ordered my Ullman headsail through CD I was told that they don't add telltales to it as they will rip off when furled.

Anybody out there add telltales to their furled sails? If so, do they pull off? Would there be a special kind?

I never even used a furler, and I'm installing one.

I see that the furler is going to make mast stepping and unstepping even more difficult, especially when doing it alone.

But so far, no major screw ups. Oh no, I just jinxed myself

Frank Gloss
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  08:57:47  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
Use the rip stop tell tales that are applied with a sticky dot and see what happens. If they survive a season then you can sew yarn and not be afraid of it pulling through and poping a thread in the sail cloth.

<img src="http://members.cox.net/fhopper/Catalina25/sigbow.jpg" border=0>Frank and Martha in Wichita KS. Lake Cheney

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tinob
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  09:06:21  Show Profile
Frank,

My new Ullman 150 furling genny came with tells, and after a summer of furling they are still in tact. The previous furling 150 still has its tell in place after fifteen years of use.

I'd speak to someone else at Ullman.

Val on Calista # 3936

Val Bisagni]<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3df11b3127cce94709c5ff2e90000000010" border=0>

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  09:09:15  Show Profile
Frank,

osmepneo had ripstop tell tales on the Jenny before it was recut, and they survived the cut. I've had roller furling for three years and they (the tell tales) have survived. Of course this season hardly counts as it was a terrible, rotten, no good, very bad season, I think I'll move to Australia! Between o/b, health and conditions on the other days, I only sailed my boat once. Boo! <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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RichardG
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  17:51:58  Show Profile
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>I'd speak to someone else at Ullman.<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

I second that advice.

My North genoa came with yarn attached with sticky-dots -- still looking and furling fine after five years. Can't say the same about the "rip-stop" ones (a couple are ripping) that came with my Roly Tasker main (4 years old).

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RichardG 81 C25 SR/FK "Sanity"

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  18:01:18  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Where exactly would you locate the telltales on a 155 roller furling genoa? I'd like to add some of the stick on kind to mine.

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  19:39:12  Show Profile
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Where exactly would you locate the telltales on a 155 roller furling genoa? I'd like to add some of the stick on kind to mine.
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Jim,

The package includes very good instructions for locating them.

J.B. Manley
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Grand Lake O' the Cherokees
36°29'58" -94°59'59"

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  21:36:04  Show Profile
Well, I was told wrong.

When I finally unrolled my new Ullman Sail, Lo and Behold, there were telltales.
The bottom had two sets, I guesse for when you are reefed in a little bit.

A friend of mine at the club was helping me and when we opened up the sail he noticed the "New sail smell" I have never had a new sail before, and neither did he. I couldn't believe how crisp and stiff the new sail is.

The sail had three rows of stitching on the edges, and some kind of little string along the bottom with some kind of friction cleat to hold it inside a pocket.

I got the furler complete, but no wind. I do know that it rolls up, and unrolls. I guesse that's a good sign. Cant wait for some wind.



Frank Gloss
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Frank Hopper
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Response Posted - 10/09/2003 :  22:30:49  Show Profile  Visit Frank Hopper's Homepage
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and some kind of little string along the bottom with some kind of friction cleat to hold it inside a pocket.
Frank Gloss
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That is called a jerk string and is usually found on the leech (where it is referred to as the leech string) and occasionally found on the foot as well, (where it is called the yada yada yada). When your leech or foot flutter you can pull the string and it will cleat and take out the flutter. Do not pull it tighter than needed or you will cup the sail and screw up the air flow. You will see some of your crew's best gymnastics while they try to adjust those strings.<img src=icon_smile.gif border=0 align=middle>

<img src="http://members.cox.net/fhopper/Catalina25/sigbow.jpg" border=0>Frank and Martha in Wichita KS. Lake Cheney

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 10/10/2003 :  00:11:38  Show Profile  Visit JimB517's Homepage
Where do you get the package?

<img src="http://www.indiscipline.org/cat25/pictures/icon.jpg" border=0>Indiscipline 1978 FK #398

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 10/10/2003 :  10:29:23  Show Profile
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Where do you get the package?<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size=2 id=quote>

West Marine has them [url="http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=32531"]here[/url].

J.B. Manley
Antares '85 FK/SR #4849
Grand Lake O' the Cherokees
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