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What line for sheets on furled sail?

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Gloss
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2003 : 20:37:02

Quick question,
What qualities does one want in you line for a 135 furled sail? Does the choice of line depend on furled, or non furled?
I would guesse that you want a light line as the sail will already be heavy from the UV protection.
Is a furled sail line longer than standard?
Recommendations?
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Frank Gloss
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NuNees
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 : 23:54:37

Frank,
I just replaced my 150 sheets with 7/16 NE StaSet. Catalina recommends 3/8 but the consensus on anothe thread was to use someting larger to ease the 'hand'.
I replace the furler line with 1/4 NE StaSet (matching blue TIC).
The 7/16 might be a little heavy, but it feels good.

Bill jaworowski,
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Sailing Lake Carlyle, IL.

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 00:15:05

Frank,

I agree with Bill on the "ease of hand" issue. I put 3/8 NE StaSet on my 150, and whoa beith thee without gloves!

However, your concern seems to be the effect of the heavier line on the heavier leech in light air. Valid point. The flip side to that dilemma, of course, is sheet strength when flattening the sail in big air.

Not much help, huh?

J.B. Manley
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 09:03:23

As far as length......Ideally you roll the jib up and then keep going to get five or so windings of sheet around it to secure it. You should then have enough left to wind around the winch a few times and cleat off. You should be able to sheet in and not loose the other end. Also, if you're using a whisker pole, you should have enough to control that, and, again, not "loose" the other end. If it was me I'd use a ball of cheap twine to do a mock up with all sail positions and then measure.....(times two of course). Too much length is not good either, it creates clutter.
As far as thickness, the 3/8 is fine on the 110 on my WB, if I had a 130 I'd definitely be looking at 7/16......not only for comfort, but also because of the fact that you won't need as many turns around the winch to get a grip....more turns means a bigger chance of a locked wrap......and more chance of messing up the release coming about.

Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 16:35:24

7/8"??? Holy tugboats!! That sheet is gonna have some HAND to it!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Gloss
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 16:56:20

A new thought. I have Lewmar 16ST self tailing winches for the jibsheets. (1989 model) Since 1989 they have redesigned the winch. I'll bet that there is an ideal line size for that that I have to stick to.

I do like the idea of a mock up with cheap line. Maybe there is a use for that old polypropelene stuff anyways.
Thanks for all of your help

Frank Gloss
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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 21:32:15

Who said 7/8? That's a near 1" diameter sheet.... would be good for towing cruise ships, but could be a bit overkill for this application...<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 22:30:41

Another stealth-edit gambit! Gotcha!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/15/2003 : 11:31:43

Officer, me? I wasn't even near the place.....<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

Oscar
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