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Storing boat for hurricane Isabel.

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atgep
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Initially Posted - 09/11/2003 : 14:04:43

I live in Jacksonville, Fl and have been watching the weather channel. I am looking for some help. I need a place to park my boat if the storm threatens. I am lookind to drive about 100 miles or so inland. Lake city, Fl. Or even south Ga. If anyone has a field or knows of a good storage yard in the vacinity please let me know. I know the storm is a week away, but.... I am in the military and fly. I will be leaving 3 days prior to landfall. That means the boat is going on the trailer this weekend. I would really like to protect the boat because if there is serious damage to my house I can live on the boat while repairing the house. Fyi I found some really good tie-down anchors used for mobile homes. They are huge and were only $5.00 a piece. Thanks, Tom

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Oscar
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 : 14:09:44

Yahoo Yellow Pages....Lake City/Gainesville/Ocala self storage. That, or just go for a drive in the right direction with $100 in cash and a fresh apple pie untill you spot a big barn in a well kept farmers yard and then knock on the door......
What do you fly? (Me 737/757/767)

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 : 14:12:23

Tom,

I'm sorry that I can't be of assistance to you, but I wish you the best of luck. Mostly, though, I wanted to say that your decision, in my opinion, is very wise. For most people (i.e., those without direct experience) it's hard to imagine what these storms are really like; until you see something like this:

[url="http://www.sailinganarchy.com/"]Hard Blow Pictorial[/url]

Again, Tom and others effected, best of luck!

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JimB517
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 : 14:20:58

I stored my boat at a large marina / dry storage yard near Lake Okeechobee. I think it was called IndianTOWN. It's well inland. The dry storage is very inexpensive. With a trailer you could probably leave the boat in the parking lot, or take a spot in the field and stake it down real good using those tie downs you got.

It would be tough to take the boat SOUTH in these conditions, but it's the best place I know.

This is THE place were cruisers leave their boats long term. You will see hundreds of Canadian sailboats there.

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Shawn
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Response Posted - 09/11/2003 : 21:28:52

Tom,
I can't offer any help as far as safe locations for storage. I just want to wish you good luck. You are doing the wise thing.
I live in the USVI and have been closely watching Isabel. She is an incredibly powerful storm. I have been through a few hurricanes, but nothing even close to 160 mph sustained winds. Very scary stuff. We are keeping our fingers crossed, hoping she stays north of us. All preliminary preps are complete as Fabian also gave us reason to worry. The boat is in a tight little hurricane hole and about 2 hrs of work if a storm becomes imminent. The hurricane shutters are all organized and ready to be put on. Gas for generator, lots of batteries, candles, canned food, etc.. You know the drill. Nothing left to do but watch the Weather channel.
Once again, good luck.

Shawn
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svmoxie
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 10:23:52

My boat is in Oriental, NC. I will go down this weekend as usual but part of the process this weekend is to decide my next move in anticipation of Isabel. I have my trailer stored nearby and I can haul out to the trailer and move it up to New Bern where I store the trailer. Or I can bring it all the way home, 4 hours inland. The hard decision is whether to haul out this weekend or wait a bit and see how she progresses. The down side of that is I will have to take a day off next week to run down and haul her our. I'm just not sure yet.

Clif Thompson
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cathluk
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 10:44:06

We don't have a trailer so hauling out would mean sitting higher up on land right next to where we are in the water. The question for us is: (1) do we stay at the marina OR (2) go up river a few miles and anchor out in a creek?

The boat is insured & I have no intention of staying with the boat if Isabel comes to Virginia so the question is purely one of minimizing the property damage.

Thoughts? Obviously, removing sails, etc to reduce windage is essential. Assuming worst case Would insurance claims be easier if I were damaged while properly tied up in my marina or blown up against some rich guy's boat house up-river?

Cathy
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Arlyn Stewart
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 11:02:00

The answer is not simple... I think your current docking plays a very large part in the decision. More modern docking floats... which is a huge advantage during storm surge. If your docking is non floating, there is lots of room for concern as the surge will lift your boat if there is too much slack in the lines and possibly desposit it on a piling. If there is not adequate slack... it can strain the lines severely, possilby wrenching cleats loose, and in some cases if the lines hold well, flood the boat and sink it.

If not at well protected floating dock... I'd ask for local advice about staying where your at vs going up river. If the docks are not floating... then your dock line methods and lengths become critical as you try to allow for surge. I would not stay at non floating docks if there was a reasonable alternative.

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svmoxie
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Response Posted - 09/12/2003 : 13:07:25

Also you should look at your contract. A lot of marinas request that you move off the docks and some insist on it. If I didn't have the trailer I would move as far up the creek as I could get and put out every anchor I have AND tie off to shore if possible.

Clif Thompson
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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/13/2003 : 09:13:10

The National Hurricane Center www.nhc.noaa.gov has pretty much cleard Florida, but NC has some things to worry about. So do we on the upper East Coast. I'd pull ours next week, except the marina/yard has a big boat show next weekend--no room for used boats. (Tents may be flying...)

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 09/13/2003 : 09:36:09

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
The National Hurricane Center www.nhc.noaa.gov has pretty much cleard Florida...???<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>

[url="http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at200313_strike.html"]Strike Probabilities[/url] She doesn't appear to have advanced West enough for the models to have made any U.S. coastline estimates, yet.

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Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 09/13/2003 : 09:47:23

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>
She doesn't appear to have advanced West enough for the models to have made any U.S. coastline estimates, yet.
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NHC: "NOTE: THERE ARE NO DYNAMICAL (sic) MODELS SUGGESTING THAT ISABEL MIGHT EVER REACH FLORIDA."

Can't deposit that in the bank, but it's encouraging to Floridians.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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