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lcharlot
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Initially Posted - 09/01/2003 :  18:27:58  Show Profile
It looks like it might really happen this time. I spotted an ad for an '89 C-25 on the Catalina owner's web site and checked it out, including a couple of phone calls to the broker. It is definately a Mark IV Wing Keel, with the lowered floor and the small sliding-door cabinet above the stove instead of the shelf the older boats had. I don't have a full equipment list yet, but equipment-wise, it seems to be almost exactly the way I wanted it. The basics are:
1989 Catalina 25WK/SR (Mark IV)
Traditional interior
Honda 7.5 outboard (mounted starboard, the correct side thankfully)
Swim ladder
Main and 135% roller furling genoa (make and model of furler unknown, I hope it's a CDI Flex Furler but can't tell for sure from the small photos I got)
Porta-Pottie (I don't want a built-in marine head)
The boat is pretty stripped, the only accessories appear to be a bulkhead-mounted depth sounder and a VHF. This is good because I can add the gear I want and not have to take a lot of older electronics.
There is no trailer, which is good because I can have a new, fully galvanized trailer made, with heavy duty axles and not have to take an older trailer that would likely be non-galvanized, rusty, and have the standard, non-heavy-duty axles that caused me so much grief on "Quiet Time"'s trailer before I rebuilt it last spring.
The price is within reach, $6750, although the location is about as far away from me as it could be - Chesapeake Bay, on the other side of the country (ouch!). I figure it will take me at least 10 days to make the round trip, if I don't run into any problems. I will bring the new boat back here on "Quiet Time"'s trailer - which will only need minor adjuxtments to fit the wing keel - and put her in a slip in San Francisco Bay until I can sell "Quiet Time". I put down a deposit and have a tentataive purchase agreement, contingent on a satisfactory survey. Since this boat has never had a trailer, I have to assume it has been in the water continuously since 1988, and I am concerned about blistering. The broker says the boat has been hauled for cleaning and bottom paint every year since it has been kept at that marina, but without a personal inspection, there's no way to know for sure what shape the bottom is in, or if there might be collision damage to the keel from a grounding at some point. But if the bottom is as nice as the interior, judging from the photos, this looks like exactly the boat I have been looking for for the last three years. There was one for sale in Tacoma, Washington, a few weeks ago, but the seller was asking $14,500, the outboard was mounted on the wrong side, it had a built-in marine head that I wouild have had to remove, and the trailer was in very poor condition (I would not have wanted to trust it for a 900 mile road trip with a 5000# sailboat sitting on it). I hope to leave here the morning of Sept. 12 to go get it, and have it back here by Sept. 22. It's hard to believe, but by the end of this month, with any luck, I will actually have my very own C-25WK Mk IV, after years of telling other people about them and urging them to shop until they find one rather than settle for an older C-25. (Frank Gloss and Bruce Ebling, for example).
Here is a link to the ad listing for this boat with some photos - wish me luck and keep your fingers crossed that she passes inspection!
If you look at the photos, can anyone tell me what the small black box on the floor under the bottom step of the companionway ladder might be?


http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/pl_boat_full_detail.jsp;jsessionid=aaa480_Fy4z_II?slim=broker&boat_id=1138610&hosturl=nortonyachts&&ywo=nortonyachts&&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=14464&url=&hosturl=nortonyachts&&ywo=nortonyachts&

Larry Charlot
Catalina 25 #1205 "Quiet Time"
Folsom Lake, CA

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Dave Bristle
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Djibouti
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Response Posted - 09/01/2003 :  19:10:02  Show Profile
Looks great, Larry! As a minor reassurance (with all appropriate caveats), blistering is less of a problem in salt water than in fresh, and as I recall, Catalina was using the newer gelcoat formula by 1989, improving the situation even further. I see there's a port in the quarterberth--mounted in the side of the starboard cockpit seat.

I like your approach--find the right basic boat to build on, and do the rest the right way. Looks like you're about to do it!

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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Buzz Maring
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Response Posted - 09/01/2003 :  19:10:21  Show Profile
<font color=blue>... can anyone tell me what the small black box on the floor under the bottom step of the companionway ladder might be? - Larry</font id=blue>

Hi Larry ... 'looks like a tool box to me.

'NICE looking boat ... good luck!

Buzz Maring
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ClamBeach
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Response Posted - 09/01/2003 :  20:31:13  Show Profile
Wow.. that's about half the price of any late model WK I've seen on the west coast... even factoring in 'no trailer'.

Currently maintaining two holes in the water...'77 Venture 23 and new to the family,
'78 Catalina 25

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frog0911
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Response Posted - 09/01/2003 :  23:17:13  Show Profile
She looks in great shape. I concur that a blister check is a must. The first time I halled mine it had 25 of those little dime to quarter size buggers on the hull and the boat lives in salt water. Penny is a 79 so as Dave says the gelcoat was changed so that might reduce, if not eliminate the problem if the bottom was done correctly each year.

Concur with Buzz it is a tool box. Matter of fact it looks like the owner borrow mine.

Here's wishing you a safe and uneventfull trip. I do not envy you.

Frog and The General
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Pretty Penny

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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/02/2003 :  09:43:21  Show Profile
Way to go Larry! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I know you've been looking for a wing, and it looks like you found one, and it looks like its in good shape. Enjoy her as you've enjoyed "Quiet Time"


Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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svmoxie
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Response Posted - 09/02/2003 :  09:48:37  Show Profile  Visit svmoxie's Homepage
I have done a few deliveries out of Deltaville, VA. Be prepared to be amazed at how little town there is and how many boats there are! Great place to sail out of.

Good luck!

Clif Thompson
Treasurer C-25/250 National Association.
svMoxie '81 25 sk

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Bruce Ebling
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Response Posted - 09/02/2003 :  12:39:54  Show Profile  Visit Bruce Ebling's Homepage
Larry: Great news on the boat find!!! With yours and Frank's encouragement I was able to purchase my 89 WK "Selah" last Feb.. Since that time I have been polishing and repairing constantly. The boat is starting to come together. Some things I did not catch when I bought the boat were: new standing rigging, years of salt water use left them in a state of repair, broken motor mount, wrote to Gerhauer and got a new one at dealer cost, cracked rudder- spent $100 at a local fiberglass shop to repair, trailer needing rust repair, new tires and bearings. I know it sounds like a lot, but I just love a project and things are coming along fine. As far as the tow home (900 miles) my half ton 4wd pickup with a 350 engine did just fine. We took it slow and had a great trip. Anyway I just want to wish you a safe journey and may the fair interstate winds blow you home with no mishaps. The trip will be something you will remember for years.
Godspeed and good luck
Bruce Ebling
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"Selah"


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mtiffee
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Response Posted - 09/02/2003 :  17:28:35  Show Profile  Visit mtiffee's Homepage
If anyone else is looking for an 89' WK/TR Mark IV, I've got one for sale!



Mike
'89 TR/WK "Freelancer"
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osmepneo
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 :  15:20:58  Show Profile
Mike,

I haven't looked at the swap meet, have you posted your desire to sell there? I'm not interested in another wk, but would be interested in "deets" (the details).

Don Peet
c25, 1665, osmepneo, sr/wk
The Great Sacandaga Lake, NY

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Sea Trac
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Response Posted - 09/03/2003 :  15:33:14  Show Profile
Right here, Don. It's a beauty!

http://www.catalina25-250.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4366

J.B. Manley
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