Association Forum - Asym Spinnaker size (I, J, etc)

Assn Members Area · Join

Home.

Association Forum

Ships Store

Cruising

Racing

Technical Tips

Photo Gallery - New

Boat Search - Updated

Manuals & Brochures

Swap Meet

Links

Officer Flag Line & Staff

Bylaws & Constitution

Members Area

Join the Association

Notice:
The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.

Association Forum

Username:	Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

All Forums

Catalina/Capri 25/250 Sailor's Forums

Catalina 25 Specific Forum

Asym Spinnaker size (I, J, etc)

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Author

Topic

77Gypsy
Captain

Member Avatar

USA
356 Posts

Initially Posted - 04/09/2003 : 13:15:55

What is the average size asymmetrical spinnaker size for the 25 standard rig? i have no expirience flying one so i'm looking for a moderately sized one that'll do the trick, not necessarily to race.

Thanx!

Steven de Filippis
78 catalina 25 - Gypsy

Edited by - on

dave holtgrave
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
427 Posts

Response Posted - 04/09/2003 : 14:14:08

i bought a used symmetrical chute last year.
i didn't want to comit to a sail and then not like it.
i bought a 32'-0" luff and a 19'-0" foot.
the sail works great without a pole and i single hand alot.
i would not fly it if is blowing over 10 mph.
you didn't say if you had a tall rig, i do.
if you have a standard rig i would say take about 3'-0" off the luff.

there is a place in the catalina manuals on line that tell you the size or you can check ijn the class rules.
dave holtgrave
5722
15 days to sailing on carlyle lake in southern illinois

f

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 04/09/2003 : 14:22:16

Cruising Direct lists a C25 Gennaker that measures,

Luff = 30'
Leach = 27.9'
Foot = 17'

Click on the link to take you to Cruising Direct's C25 sail list.

http://www.cruisingdirect.com/InStockCatalinaSails.htm

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc32b3127cce92e981259d130000001010" border=0>
North Star SR/FK

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 04/09/2003 : 15:04:42

Dave,

Last summer I bought a used sail from someone and it was advertised as an asymmetrical cruising spinnaker, but when I opened the package and measured it, it turned out to be a symmetrical spinnaker. I didn't return it because the sail is in great shape and it came with a dousing sock. Additionally, it only cost me $150.00.

Since I don't have a spinnaker pole, I thought I would try using the ATN Tacker to fly this symmetrical sail like an asymetrical, but I haven't done this yet because I ran into a slight problem. When I splashed last year, I had rigged a spinnaker halyard and block from the masthead to fly the spinnaker, but this halyard was fouling my upper furling swivel so I just pulled it down(I'm still looking for a masthead crane to get the block out and away from the masthead). Anyway, when I get the masthead situation figured out, I plan on flying this sail using the Tacker.

Now for a couple of questions. How do you fly your symmetrical spinnaker without the pole? Do you fly it as you would an asymmetrical? Do you use a spinnaker crane? Have you used a Tacker? Any problems from the masthead?

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2cc32b3127cce92e981259d130000001010" border=0>
North Star SR/FK

Edited by - on

Bill Holcomb
Admiral

Members Avatar

USA
769 Posts

Response Posted - 04/10/2003 : 17:15:33

Hi Steven,

Just a quick reference to one sail outfit, the Sail Warehouse, indicates dimensions for a cruising spinnaker for the C25 as:
Luff 30', Leech 25.5', and Foot 18.1'. They call this cruising spinnaker the "CS30".

If you want to try a smaller size, they sell smaller cruising chutes with luffs as short as 22.5'. And, increase in size by about a foot longer luff as you go up.

When I bought Snickerdoodle's cruising spinnaker years ago, the sailmaker wanted to downsize the chute to about a 165% size.....Full hoist on the luff, but short on the foot. I argued with him that I wanted a full 180% spinnaker - but assymetrical. I got what I wanted and have never regretted it.

Bill Holcomb - C25 Snickerdoodle #4839

BTW - For those of you all who are thinking about flying a symetrical spinnaker without a pole - this is very do'able. Use a 6' long line tied to one lower corner (this corner becomes the tack) and secure the other end of this line to the stem fitting. If you have a carabiner aboard, secure the tack corner to the forestay (a slip-knot loop in the tack line near the tack corner works great for this). Hoist away and you'll find that the sail works fine on beam to broad reaches.

Edited by - on

dave holtgrave
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
427 Posts

Response Posted - 04/11/2003 : 10:38:29

hey don.
sorry i haven't responded to your questions.
i fry the symmetrical sail just like an assmmetrical.
i have an adjustable tack that runs back to the cockpit for luff adjustment.
i am converting to roller furling right now and am also struggling with a masthead crane.
i hope i get the top swivel out for enough.
i have read that if you keep snagging the halyard in the furling take the spinnaker halyard and whip behind the spreader and that way it will act as a holdback.
i also have a ATN and i'll see if i like it.
i also bought a chute scoop and i think this will come in handy when i sail alone.

we should probably compare notes later this summer

dave holtgrave
5722 tr/sk
15 days to sailing on carlyle lake in southern illinois

Edited by - on

dlucier
Master Marine Consultant

Members Avatar

Virgin Islands (United Kingdom)
7583 Posts

Response Posted - 04/11/2003 : 11:44:03

Dave,

Thanks for the info. I'm definately going to get this sail up this season.

<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>Don Lucier<img src="http://www.catalina25-250.org/c25sm.gif" border=0>
<img src="http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b2d904b3127cce9f7cd9ffdf1d0000003010" border=0>
North Star SR/FK

Edited by - on

77Gypsy
Captain

Members Avatar

USA
356 Posts

Response Posted - 04/14/2003 : 15:20:19

Thanks for all the info.

Steven de Filippis
78 catalina 25 - Gypsy

Edited by - on

Topic

New Topic

Topic Locked

Printer Friendly

Jump To:

Association Forum

Notice: The advice given on this site is based upon individual or quoted experience, yours may differ.
The Officers, Staff and members of this site only provide information based upon the concept that anyone utilizing this information does so at their own risk and holds harmless all contributors to this site.