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Erik Cornelison
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Initially Posted - 02/21/2019 :  19:15:59  Show Profile
Anyone have or know where I can get some Genoa track, silver and 1" wide? I only need about a foot.

I don't want to order 47" for $80 from Catalina Direct, but I might call them to see if they have a shorter piece.

This is for my whisker pole to mount on the front of the mast, I already have 1" track on the mast, but need just a tiny bit more to store it up there.

Here's a link on Catalina Direct for what I'm looking for:
https://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm/product/348_40/genoa-t-track-1-x-47.cfm


Erik
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Response Posted - 02/21/2019 :  19:38:55  Show Profile

Garhauer sells 1" T track for $11.25 per foot. See this link.
https://www.garhauermarine.com/t-track-1-wide-tt-1.html
Steve Milby J/24 "Captiva Wind"
previously C&C 35, Cal 25, C25 TR/FK, C22
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/22/2019 :  08:07:06  Show Profile
Thanks, a fair price, but not in silver color. I'll email and ask if they have in silver to match the existing track I already have.

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Response Posted - 02/22/2019 :  09:35:35  Show Profile
Shaeffer sells it for $58.55 for a 2' length. If you can't find it at the $12.00 price, I would use black. It's only a short piece on the mast, and I doubt that anyone will think about it's color.

I installed a black 4' track on my mast and replaced the original black traveler with a new black traveler on my C&C 35. My mast and boom are painted white and the genoa track and Lewmar winches and blocks are all silver. My whisker pole is silver. My boat was originally built with a mix of black and silver hardware colors with white spars.

But I'm not sure that you need the pole attachment to be adjustable at all for your whisker pole. I raced in about 7 C25 national regattas and 2-3 Cal 25 national regattas, and don't recall anyone adjusting the pole height for a whisker pole. It's done regularly for a spinnaker, but not a genoa.

For downwind sailing with a genoa, sail shape is virtually irrelevant. It's all about maximizing sail area. Aerodynamic shape isn't a factor, because the wind is only pushing on one side of the sail. If whisker pole length is not limited by the rules at your racing venue, then I don't think adjusting the pole attachment height matters at all. If whisker pole length is limited, then being able to adjust the height of the attachment might matter theoretically, but I think it would be almost inconsequential.

Anyway, it's worth thinking about before you go to the effort and expense of making the modification.
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Response Posted - 02/22/2019 :  12:19:58  Show Profile
Steve - my whisker pole is just a tiny bit longer than my track attached to the mast. The track is fine for sailing, but even at its shortest length the whisker is about 4" too long for storing on the mast in a upright position. Inside the boat the whisker is just in the way while underway.

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Edited by - Erik Cornelison on 02/22/2019 12:20:46
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Response Posted - 02/22/2019 :  13:09:06  Show Profile
Oh I get it now! Good idea. Now that you mention it, I think I'll do that with the whisker pole on my C&C 35. I don't think I'd have to modify any hardware to do it, and it makes it very easy to store and to set the pole when you want to use it, especially with a roller furling jib. Lower it to horizontal, put the jibsheet in the jaws and then unroll the jib by pulling the jibsheet. I should have done that 15 years ago!
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GaryB
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Response Posted - 02/22/2019 :  21:55:19  Show Profile
Could you just add a spinnaker pole ring to the front of the mast so you can attach one end of the pole to the ring and the other end to the track you have now?

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Edited by - GaryB on 02/22/2019 21:58:19
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/23/2019 :  19:26:18  Show Profile
Nope, can't add that ring.. I already have it. Good idea if I didn't have it..it would of solved the problem.

I still need just a tiny bit more track length.



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Could you just add a spinnaker pole ring to the front of the mast so you can attach one end of the pole to the ring and the other end to the track you have now?

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keats
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Response Posted - 02/23/2019 :  21:35:21  Show Profile
You know, Erik, I was in a sort of discount/consignment chandlery in Alameda, CA today after dropping off a sail for repair next door and I did see a barrel of random lengths of t-track. It wasn't all brand new but there were plenty of clean straight pieces in it.

I'll be going back in a week or so to pick up the sail and I'd be happy to see if there's a piece of 1" that would work for you if you want.

Email me if you want me to check for you.
Tim Keating
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/24/2019 :  07:46:19  Show Profile
That would be awesome..I sent you a PM.

Erik

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Originally posted by keats

You know, Erik, I was in a sort of discount/consignment chandlery in Alameda, CA today after dropping off a sail for repair next door and I did see a barrel of random lengths of t-track. It wasn't all brand new but there were plenty of clean straight pieces in it.

I'll be going back in a week or so to pick up the sail and I'd be happy to see if there's a piece of 1" that would work for you if you want.

Email me if you want me to check for you.
Erik Cornelison
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keats
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Response Posted - 02/24/2019 :  11:37:47  Show Profile
Sad to say don't know how PM's work in this forum. Where to I get them. If you want to email, address is in my profile.
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Stinkpotter
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Response Posted - 02/24/2019 :  14:59:01  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Steve Milby

Shaeffer sells it for $58.55 for a 2' length...
$47 from Defender (black or silver).
Dave Bristle
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/25/2019 :  09:09:37  Show Profile
I think the PM goes to your email...

quote:
Originally posted by keats

Sad to say don't know how PM's work in this forum. Where to I get them. If you want to email, address is in my profile.
Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/25/2019 :  09:24:06  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Stinkpotter

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Milby

Shaeffer sells it for $58.55 for a 2' length...
$47 from Defender (black or silver).


Where? I only see black track. Can you post a link?

Erik
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Response Posted - 02/25/2019 :  10:55:42  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Cornelison

Where? I only see black track. Can you post a link?
Right here. Notice they list four lengths in black and four in silver.
Dave Bristle
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Response Posted - 02/25/2019 :  11:03:47  Show Profile
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Originally posted by keats

Sad to say don't know how PM's work in this forum. Where to I get them. If you want to email, address is in my profile.
To avoid internet address-harvesting systems, the association doesn't show e-mail addresses. Instead, if you go to a person's profile by clicking his/her name, and then click "Send an e-mail" link, it lets you enter a message that is sent to the e-mail address, from the "Forum Administrator." You can include your address in the message to allow direct replies. (Replying to the e-mail from the Administrator goes nowhere.) This is our "PM" service.
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Response Posted - 02/25/2019 :  12:05:20  Show Profile
quote:
This is our "PM" service.


Thanks Dave.
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JohnP
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Response Posted - 02/26/2019 :  07:55:47  Show Profile
Erik,
Another source of all sorts of sailboat parts at really low prices is Minney's in Costa Mesa, CA. You could call them and ask if they have what you need. I have bought cam cleats, stand-up blocks, and life ring brackets there at about 90% off!

Here is the contact info:
Minney's Yacht Surplus
1500 Newport Blvd
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
Phone number (949) 548-4192
https://www.facebook.com/Minneys-Yacht-Surplus-124320377646341/
http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/
Their website seems to be down, but their Facebook page is up.
Minney's website does not help much, in any case, since they have a few display cases with fancy small parts, something like 200 milk crates full of thousands of sorted boat parts, hundreds of sails, and countless large pieces of boats. Either you or they have to go and find the particular part you need. I bet they will have many pieces of 1" genoa T-track.

I have found the folks who work there to be very helpful.
JohnP
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Mill Creek off the Magothy River, Chesapeake Bay
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Erik Cornelison
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Response Posted - 02/27/2019 :  15:23:25  Show Profile
I know them, I was just a few miles away this January and wanted to "dig" through everything, but was overruled by family...seems their idea of a vacation isn't looking for sailboat parts.

So the kids went swimming in the Pacific instead...

Erik


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Originally posted by JohnP

Erik,
Another source of all sorts of sailboat parts at really low prices is Minney's in Costa Mesa, CA. You could call them and ask if they have what you need. I have bought cam cleats, stand-up blocks, and life ring brackets there at about 90% off!

Here is the contact info:
Minney's Yacht Surplus
1500 Newport Blvd
Costa Mesa, CA 92627
Phone number (949) 548-4192
https://www.facebook.com/Minneys-Yacht-Surplus-124320377646341/
http://www.minneysyachtsurplus.com/
Their website seems to be down, but their Facebook page is up.
Minney's website does not help much, in any case, since they have a few display cases with fancy small parts, something like 200 milk crates full of thousands of sorted boat parts, hundreds of sails, and countless large pieces of boats. Either you or they have to go and find the particular part you need. I bet they will have many pieces of 1" genoa T-track.

I have found the folks who work there to be very helpful.
Erik Cornelison
6th Generation Professional Sailor, First Gen Submarine Sailor.
1986 Standard Rig SW. #5234
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