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delliottg
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Initially Posted - 05/16/2014 :  13:05:36  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
A few days ago we hanked on our 110 jib for the first time this season. I noticed (for the first time) that the jib only gets to within about 3' of the top of the forestay (that's a guess). I suspect we've got a jib from a standard rig, although it's not an original Catalina jib, and we've got a TR. Since we frequently have problems with the jib hanging up on the pulpit in light air, I thought about making a pendant out of Dyneema or something to raise the jib above the pulpit a couple of inches.

I know this would move my center of effort a bit higher and increase heeling, but by how much?

Are their other things I should consider? It'd be pretty easy to mock up a pendant & just see how it goes, and then make a proper one if we like it.
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awetmore
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Response Posted - 05/16/2014 :  14:58:17  Show Profile
It is common for working jibs to be cut without full luff extension.

Using a piece of scrap line to pick the height works pretty well. Just raising it a foot won't make a big difference in heeling, but will give you greater visibility and keep it off of your pulpit.

Do you also have a 135 or 150? It's not common to use a working jib/110/#3 as your light air sail.
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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/16/2014 :  15:22:55  Show Profile  Visit delliottg's Homepage
I've got lots more head sails that I've never used. I think I have a 135, 150 & 170, plus the asym spinnaker and our 70 storm jib. I could have probably used the 150 or 170 last night, we were ghosting along at about .4 kts, but neither of us wanted to dig another sail out (they're underneath the v-berth which isn't so easy to get to under way). We've in general never felt the need for a larger jib, the 110 if anything can be too much sail, but we counter than by taking in one or two reefs in the main.

I'll probably try raising it a couple of feet, I'm pretty sure I've got that much room at the top of the fore stay and a bit more. Easy to just unclip it from the tack, hoist it up all the way & measure.
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Response Posted - 05/16/2014 :  15:38:09  Show Profile
I fly my storm jib on the light weight steel cable pendant (with small carabiners at both ends) that I use for the gennaker, and it's such a small sail, that it doesn't cause much heel when raised by 4 feet. I love that sail, and it allows me to go out in 25-35 kt winds, when other sailors don't think it's possible! You should dig out your storm jib and give it a try in "small craft warning" winds with dangerous gusts! Those gusts are tamed by a storm jib and a reef in the main.

I would think just some standard line, dyneema or double braid, with shackles or strong carabiners at both ends would be fine for making a pendant for your 110.
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Response Posted - 05/17/2014 :  06:37:27  Show Profile
I also keep my extra sails under the V-berth when I'm cruising (the spinnaker is an exception that I'll try to leave accessible). When the boat is setup for day sailing they live on top of the V-berth (and the V-berth cushions stay at home) which makes sail changes a lot easier.

A 170% is an annoyingly large sail to handle short handed, but the 135% or 150% (depending on which is in better condition) is probably a very nice sail for the light wind days. I also like my #3 (105%) and it gets a lot of use in the winter, but my 135% is my go-to sail for Puget Sound.
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Response Posted - 05/18/2014 :  08:29:19  Show Profile
I run snap shackle to block to cleat. Sometimes I just tie to the pulpit rather than the cleat.


Lots of traffic on Lake Lanier so sight ahead is important.
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