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britinusa
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Initially Posted - 03/30/2014 : 11:58:16

Ordered a dual kit of MagicEzy this morning. Will report back when it arrives.

[url="http://www.nanotechrepairs.com/"]MagicEzy[/url]

Paul

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Moved up to C34 Eximius

Updated August 2015

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 03/30/2014 : 12:32:55

I'll be interested to see how this works on hairline cracks.

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Response Posted - 03/30/2014 : 13:59:50

Interesting,
I will be interested in seeing the before/after photos. What color(s) did you order? I will also be interested in the difference between the chip-fix and hairline-fix.

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britinusa
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Response Posted - 03/30/2014 : 15:27:20

White.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 03/31/2014 : 05:17:01

Does it come it a Gallon Bucket??

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Response Posted - 03/31/2014 : 15:46:01

I'd be more impressed if they showed "after" pics on their website.

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Response Posted - 04/01/2014 : 10:36:12

I am interested in the before/after picks as well. If it turns out nice, this would be a great thing for all the little spots that don't require a larger repair. They have 5 white colors and it will be interesting to see if any of them match closely to the original gelcoat, at this price it will still be cheap enough even if you have to order two different whites and mix them. Atleast for my '88 I might have to mix the snow white and Oyster White....

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Response Posted - 04/01/2014 : 13:00:50

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by TakeFive
 I'd be more impressed if they showed "after" pics on their website.
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Exactly what I was thinking. Seems kinda odd.

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Response Posted - 04/12/2014 : 05:17:01

Getting concerned, not arrived yet. Maybe it takes longer than expected from down under.

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/12/2014 : 07:03:30

Found this video link in the original website mentioned above.
http://www.magicezy.com

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Response Posted - 04/19/2014 : 13:09:06

Nanobots arrived today.

Working on a review including before and after pics.

Paul

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Ben
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Response Posted - 04/21/2014 : 12:08:41

Looking forward to your review. :)

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Response Posted - 04/21/2014 : 16:40:23

Me too, Hopefully you have found the next miracle cure to my spider cracks.

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Response Posted - 04/22/2014 : 15:59:16

Ok, first review.

I purchased two tubes, one each of '9 Second Chip Fix' and 'Hairline Fix'

First test was fixing a ding/void in the gel coat on the Stbd coaming and another in the curved section at the bottom of the port side cockpit seat back and base.

I cleaned out the shallow dings, only about 2mm deep max. Removed some of the thin gelcoat that would cave in if pressed with my finger.

Then I masked off each ding with Frog Tape leaving about 1cm space between the tape and the dings.

Next I applied the 9 Second chip fix to each ding. Each ding is only about 4 or 5 mm in diameter.

Then let it dry (it's water based).

After an hour, I didn't think it was totally dry/hardened, so I left it overnight.

In the morning, I was still able to press my fingernail easily into the 'hardened' chip fix material.

The top of the Stbd coaming is non-skid, so it has a woven appearance. So I used a set of craft knives to try and cut the surface of the repair to match the non-skid.

The result is very visible despite my efforts to mimic the non-skid.

On the curved section on the port side cockpit seat the ding was slightly wider, about 2cm.

On this repair the applied chip fix reached the Frog tape, so when I peeled it off, there was a ridge at the edge of the repair.

I was able to easily trim the surface of the repair with my craft knife set.
To smooth it down to match the height of the original surface, I used wet n dry 1200 grit.

Now I have a grey mark that shows the extent of the repair.

So my initial response to 'How did it go' is 'Not so good'! I'll try it again on a couple of other dings and review it later.

Next I tried the Hairline Fix.

Let me explain how I think this stuff works... From the name of the company 'NanoTech Repairs' I'm assuming the tube contains Nano particles in a water based solution. So perhaps the concept is that the Nano particles migrate into the hairline cracks in the gelcoat.

If that is the case, then it seems to work!

I cleaned an area with a damp cloth and then squeezed a thin bead, perhaps 1 or 2mm wide along the hairline cracks. Then used the base of the tube as a spreader to encourage the liquid into the cracks.

Then I quickly buffed off the surplus solution.

The hairline cracks are barely visible!

Our 8 year old boat has several areas with hairline cracks, I'll work on several of them this weekend.

So 9 Second Chip Fix - Thumbs down. Sorry guys, no magic bullet here.

Hairline Fix - Definitely Thumbs UP!

Total cost of the purchase was $45.44 AUD + $15.00 AUD shipping, so $60.44 AUD.

Shipping took a total of 19 days (From Downunder).
Each tube contains 12.9ml of solution.

I'll post pics later.

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/22/2014 : 19:29:45

Do you ever wonder why containers have 12.9 ml, 4.5 ml or 7/8 oz? Why not 13, 5 or 1?

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 03:26:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 Do you ever wonder why containers have 12.9 ml, 4.5 ml or 7/8 oz? Why not 13, 5 or 1?

<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

It's not a conversion issue! The 12.9ml tubes are 0.43floz.

(But that gets me going on my soapbox! FLOZ! and why do food manufacturers use different Nutritional Facts measurements on the same product.
ie. OJ (Top50)
Service size 8floz (240ml)
Contains 10mg of Sodium.

Make all the measurements in ml and have done with it.

off soapbox.

Paul
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(or would it be a C762)

Paul

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 07:50:36

Thanks for the review, Paul; I'm going to have to get some of that hairline fix. :)

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 08:10:57

What's worked well for me for repairing chips and gouges is the one-part gelcoat patch that comes in a little tube from WM. Build it up a little above the surrounding surface, let it set, sand it down (nicely sandable), polish it, and POOF!

It's probably not as good for spider cracks--doesn't seep into hairlines that well.

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 10:21:36

<< the one-part gelcoat patch that comes in a little tube from WM. >>

ditto.

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 11:24:00

Is Evercoat the brand name of the gel coat repair material from West Marine?

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 11:49:11

The fact that you tried this product (MagicEzy) on hairline stress cracks and indicated it worked well, is a beneficial recommendation. There are not many products that work with hairline cracks as easily as this product works. I did a short search on repair of hairline cracks and came across a video utilizing West products. But their method was a much more substantial repair and time involved/labor involved. Basically grinded out the surface matl to get down to any voids that may have been the root cause of the cracks, then filled the voids with polyester matl and then utilizing fiberglass strands and West epoxy, filled into the surface, then sanding and polishing. In my instance, there is no way I am going around the boat treating spider cracks that way....well, maybe in a few where a void was likely. But for the run of the mill spider cracks, seems like the MagicEzy for spider cracks is the way to go.

Thanks for the posting !!

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Response Posted - 04/23/2014 : 15:06:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Kim Luckner
 Is Evercoat the brand name of the gel coat repair material from West Marine?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Affirmative. I see WM has one with their name on it--can't say if it's the same. (My tube is 10+ years old.)

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Response Posted - 04/24/2014 : 03:40:06

I know there is a product that fills or finds microsopic leaks....forget wehat it is called...but it is in some suto stores. It is a white liquid. However, this magicEzy appears to be more appropriate for our spider cracks...it also comes in the various color shades. I may order a tube to try it out. I mean we all have these spider cracks in areas like the cockpit floor/wall joint, base of some stanchions and perhaps some of the bow Pulpit supports. Most are probably cosmetic but...a crack is a crack and best to seal them up in case they really do have a leak ath to the internal construction.

By the way.....I always noticed that after a moderate rain, I would sometimes see what appeared to be a water stain (perhaps 4"-5" long)on the cabin floor adjacent to the mast column. I never really paid it much attention but given that some have had issues with their cabin top softening, thought I should look into this issue. My boat is in the water all the time and I am not one to take the mast down to inspect what is going on with the mast plate but from the exterior, there is a small raised lip where the mast sits, so I suspect the leak must ne internal to the mast where it sits on the mast plate. Perhaps there is a bolt, etc that allowing leakage down the column. So, not wanting to take the mast down to inspect, I bought some spray adjesive from Home Depot and sprayed into the openings in the mast down by the mast plate ...believe where the internal halyard blocks are located. Seemed to work ! I no longer have any water stain in the cabin.

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Response Posted - 04/25/2014 : 07:32:30

http://www.captaintolley.com/

and I've always used this. ( creeping crack sealer ) Couldn't tell you if it works or not. From WM.

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Response Posted - 04/25/2014 : 08:10:21

Ray, I'm not sure I understand your post. You've always used Captain Tolley's, but couldn't say if it works or not? Or am I misunderstanding. I've been interested in Captain Tolley's product for a while, and it seems like Paul's MagicEZ Hairline Fix product might do the same thing.

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Response Posted - 04/25/2014 : 09:40:27

Yes - That's the product I have also used - Capt Tolley's Creeping Crack Sealer ! I also am not sure if it works or not. How could that be ? Well, for me, the reason is that I had a Honda del Sol - with a removable hard top. I had various leaks and first thought that some was from the windshield around the molding area as there was some active corrosion where the molding touched the windshield frame. That leak sealer looks like a very drippy Elmer's glue. Anyway, it did not seal off the leaks but I then realized that the leaks were more from the gasketing around the Honda removable top as well as other body/joint areas including the frame that is adjacent to the doors. I was going to replace the gasketing all around the top and other areas but it is extremely expensive. Anyway, the Honda dealer told me they don't hunt leaks...at least not the type on my car. But gave me a great reference - A small company (really one guy with 1-2 helpers) that worked 2 days out of week at the nearby Jeep dealer. I checked things out with him and turns out the Jeep dealer had so many new auto warranty leak repairs that they let this guy work on their premises on all their new SUVs, etc and also if anyone with other cars such as mine need work, he can work them into his schedule as well. The dealer does not even get involved with the money transactions from the non-jeep cars coming in. Well, about 50# (an exaggeration) of gasket sealant and realigning the body panel rear and adjacent to the driver's side door did the trick ($200)....No more leaks !! That was 2-3 years ago and recently sold the car to a co-worker. Getting back to the Creeping Crack Sealer.. .. I could not assess how well it seals since whatever I put around the windshield/frame gap (about 1/32" seemed to just flow and keep on flowing somewhere but never filled the gap. Then agin, it probably was not made to fill a 1/32" or larger gap. The Creeping Crack Sealer is made to seal a crack, it is inexpensive and has no structural properties. The MagicEzy indicates it is for sealing cosmetically and structurally (at least that is what the website indicates) and contains resin. We also have one thumbs up reviewer ! That's enough for me for something like the spider cracks to give it a try.

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