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upnorth-mn
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Initially Posted - 08/12/2013 :  15:51:44  Show Profile  Visit upnorth-mn's Homepage
any advice on removing the water tank. i am redoing the plumbing throughout. i am mainly concerned about the fiberglass extension which seems to prevent the water tank from being removed. very tightly placed.

(sorry if it is on the forum. wasn't able to find it.)

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chris

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she's an old boat he says / with gate valves as seacocks / cracked and weathered teak / and sails misshapen / from close hauled tacks upwind

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 08/12/2013 :  18:41:34  Show Profile
There is a reason everyone has a Dremel. I used one to remove my water tank. I stored my table down there and put shelves on the bulkhead where the table used to stand.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  05:26:43  Show Profile
Mine came out without any cutting.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  07:33:30  Show Profile
The tank on Lutra came out without cutting as well, but it was a newer boat (1984, serial #4670) and had the dinette interior.

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upnorth-mn
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  15:35:32  Show Profile  Visit upnorth-mn's Homepage
i have a dremel but did not want to unduly damage the fiberglass which holds the tank in place since i am replacing, not removing. but that brings up an interesting point. do most owners just remove the water tank and not replace it. (i would rather my boat look/function as much as possible like it did from the factory with some exceptions.)

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islander
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  16:08:42  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">(i would rather my boat look/function as much as possible like it did from the factory with some exceptions.)
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Good idea, Many have removed the water tank and most of the plumbing because they didn't see any reason to maintain the system. It just didn't fit in with their sailing style. What they fail to realize is that maybe the next potential buyer of the boat will turn it down because of this.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  18:36:57  Show Profile
Remove the tank and store the parts for the next owner.

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Sloop Smitten
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  19:29:26  Show Profile
Chris,
Mine had a plywood board fiberglassed in on the stern side that had to be cutout for mine to be removed. It appeared to have been placed there when the boat was manufactured but who knows. A disc cutter made short work of it and when I replaced the tank I epoxied some redwood stops in that hold it in place but allow me to remove it at will. There appears to be different configurations out there.

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Lee Panza
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Response Posted - 08/13/2013 :  23:28:10  Show Profile  Visit Lee Panza's Homepage
Just wondering why you're replacing the tank, Chris; I overhauled the water system on mine last year, but I rehabbed the tank in place. I installed a round Beckson inspection hatch, with a clear cover so I can easily check the water level now, and I was easily able to scrub out the interior. After a chlorine disinfection (and a purge of the heavily chlorinated soak) the tank seems like new.

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upnorth-mn
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Response Posted - 08/14/2013 :  04:25:33  Show Profile  Visit upnorth-mn's Homepage
thanks, lee. you have provided me with a great option. i was being too "nihilistic" in my approach.

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Tomas Kruska
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Response Posted - 08/14/2013 :  04:35:22  Show Profile  Visit Tomas Kruska's Homepage
Just to get some ideas http://members.csinet.net/dhapp/fwtank/tanksupport.html

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jimboryd
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Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  15:25:51  Show Profile
Not to hijack the thread, but my PO cut a big hole in the top of my tank to use as storage, so I'll have to get a new tank to use for water. :(

Side note: Chris, I see we are in the same waters - Lake Pepin, MN! We'll have to get together and learn about our boats so we can move up from being deckhands. ;)

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upnorth-mn
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Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  18:36:43  Show Profile  Visit upnorth-mn's Homepage
@jimboryd

sorry about the tank, jim. i am at pepin marina and a member of the pepin yacht club as well. i haven't seen any other 25's so you must be at lake city or hansen's.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/15/2013 :  21:03:27  Show Profile
I don't use the tank but I use my sink. The tank gets rank smelling shortly after I fill it with water. I carry 3-5 one gallon jugs of fresh water. They fit nicely on the floor near the head.
I use the water for hand washing, etc. I have a few polycarbonate gallon bottles (Poland Spring) for drinking water (no BIS).
This arrangement works fine for me.

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jimboryd
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Response Posted - 08/16/2013 :  07:49:10  Show Profile
@Chris - Yes, I'm at Hansen's. I bought the boat in April and decided to take this season to refurbish her (new thru-hulls, eliminate the cobble jobs by POs, etc.) so hopefully we'll see each other next year.

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glen
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Response Posted - 08/16/2013 :  08:14:24  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Voyager</i>
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I have a few polycarbonate gallon bottles (Poland Spring) for drinking water (no BIS).

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I use 2 liter Pepsi bottles for our drinking water, but I don’t believe they are polycarbonate. Is the Poland Spring bottles a better choice?

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 08/16/2013 :  16:52:57  Show Profile
Portable shower bags hold water and use gravity to work.

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islander
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Response Posted - 08/17/2013 :  05:25:46  Show Profile
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The tank gets rank smelling shortly after I fill it with water<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
Bruce, Try putting @1/2 cup of bleach in when you fill the tank. This is what I do and never have foul smelling water. We only use it for rinsing things off or for the aft shower I installed. Drinking water is in gal. jugs.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/18/2013 :  19:54:24  Show Profile
Glen -
Any bottles that fit in your space and don't roll around are fine. I use a few gallon size Poland Spring bottles because they're made of clear plastic (so I can see what I'm drinking) and the gallon bottles come with a handle and a large flat bottom, so they don't roll around unless conditions are very bad.

Scott -
I've tried using a capful of bleach a few times. My problem is that once I put water in the tank, it can sit for weeks or a month. By then, the chlorine in the bleach evaporates so the water starts to go bad again.
With the pump handle type faucets, I have to pump and pump to clear the water out. So I choose not to use the tank.

I keep other water bottles (vinyl jugs) for cleaning and washing water.

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redeye
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Response Posted - 08/19/2013 :  03:59:07  Show Profile
I use two one gallon water bottles.. the plastic "milk" gallons. the two fit just starbrd of the companionway ladder and the ladder holds them into place. When one gets low I bring another... about every other time out.


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sweetcraft
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Response Posted - 08/20/2013 :  13:09:18  Show Profile
I also installed an inspection port in the tank to keep it clean. I dry it out for the storage season. I did find the deck fitting hose used to fill it had a loop and it was ripe so I removed it and plugged the fill hose fitting. We found that we now fill the tank thru the inspection port and can tell when it is full. When cruising it is also easier to fill with the clean water containers using the port. I also replace the waterlines everyother year to insure safe water. Being sure to use the thick wall plastic lines so the pump doesn't suck them flat. I did move the tank aft to make a place to add the 3rd battery which does make the boat set level (yes I have a microwave that uses the third btry) Just a few ideas.

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