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Joe Diver
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Initially Posted - 05/16/2012 : 19:50:57

I caint afford me no lazy man high dollar fancy roller furler thingy fer my boat, so I gots me a big purty bag:

This evening I replaced all the hanks with nice new brass hanks, installed new tells and the jib bag. I got the tells from CD, the stick on ones that are red/green ribbons. It'll be nice to not hank on/off the jib and manhandle the jib bag back and forth to the sail locker...I can just open the bag, unroll it and run the sheets, and I'm good to go. Stowing it is easy too. Until I can afford to install roller furling (if), this will be one of the "little things" that's a nice inexpensive upgrade.

I also got a new hatch dog to replace the broken one, and I got the mast gate mod for the slug channel....I didn't have any butyl tape to bed the hatch dog and ran out of daylight for the mast gate, so those two will wait for another day.

Scott

When we left, we had just enough fuel to make it to San Juan. And now... we are out of fuel!

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/16/2012 : 20:50:07

Yep, we've got one of those too.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 05/16/2012 : 21:00:12

I'm one step lazier than you and leave the sheets out of the sail bag. I think it's a good idea, the sheets are more likely than the sail to get wet and I don't want to put wet things in my bag if I can help it.

I'm still trying to find tells that I love. The Davis ones that are flat nylon seem to stick to the sail easily. The yarn ones on my Catalina-branded sail also stick easily, but I got some Davis stick on yarn ones to try.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/16/2012 : 21:53:46

I had the jib bag, too. Loved it.

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Inspiration
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 06:08:07

where did you get that bag?

Thanks
Ted

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 06:44:19

[url="http://www.catalinadirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_ID=2235&ParentCat=117"]Catalina Direct.[/url]

I compared several bags from various sources and materials. I chose this one to be an exact match to my main cover. Vanity choice.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 07:22:38

Frequently on Ebay too. Be sure to buy the size to fit your largest headsail.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 07:27:27

I got mine off ebay for about half the price. Although, it has a zipper instead of twist locks. The zipper is a PITA to zip back up sometimes. I'd rather have the twist locks. The bag, however is a huge improvment over having to drag the sail from below. I also leave my sheets led back to the winches, so I don't have to run those either.

Now that you have it, you'll prob be like me and never get a furler. The bag is easy enough that paying another $1500 just isn't worth it. ;)

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 11:30:40

I used it for the first time last weekend. It was very nice to just unclasp, unzip and the headsail is there, hanked on. Took just a couple minutes to roll it out and run the sheets. Same thing putting it away...roll up the sheets, flake and roll the sail then stuff it ion the bag. Done.

If I leave the sheets run.....I'll have to flake it and roll it differently. The way I've done it is roll the sheets into the flaked sail, as I roll it up from the clew to the tack, then stuff the roll into the bag.

How do you do it, leaving the sheets?

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delliottg
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 12:20:55

On my 110, I have a quick release snap shackle that I simply clip to the hanging loop on the jib bag, along with the halyard. There's no particularly good reason for the quick release other than it was there when I got the sail and I've never changed it. On my San Juan 21 I just used a cow hitch to attach the sheets, but I didn't have a jib bag for it, so I didn't need to worry about stowing the sheets.

I don't think my sheets are long enough for me to put in a cow hitch and be able to draw the sheets up into the jib bag without them coming out of their turning blocks. I've never checked because it's so easy to just unclip the snap shackle when it's time to bag the jib.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 05/22/2012 : 20:50:20

After flaking the sail, instead of rolling it, start about 3 ft back from the bow, put both hands under the flaked sail, lift and pull the sail up to the bow, repeat until the sail is S-folded all the way to the bow. Then put it into the bag. Do it this way and you can leave the sheets attached. I folded the sheets and placed them on top of the sail before putting the sail into the bag. You could leave the sheets sticking out of the bag at the top and strung through the blocks. Then all you would need to do is pull the bag, attach the halyard, and you are ready to hoist.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 04:40:48

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
 After flaking the sail, instead of rolling it, start about 3 ft back from the bow, put both hands under the flaked sail, lift and pull the sail up to the bow, repeat until the sail is S-folded all the way to the bow. Then put it into the bag. Do it this way and you can leave the sheets attached. I folded the sheets and placed them on top of the sail before putting the sail into the bag. You could leave the sheets sticking out of the bag at the top and strung through the blocks. Then all you would need to do is pull the bag, attach the halyard, and you are ready to hoist.
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Joe, this is also how I do it.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 06:16:13

Okay, I get it...start from the front of the sail, lifting and flaking, while dragging the clew w/sheets up to you. Seems simple enough, just a little more effort than what I was doing. I'll try it next time I'm out.

I'll try it and decide if I like leaving the sheets run. I tend to put everything away and stow as neat as possible. I know it's more work and takes a little longer to get ready for sailing, but that's just the military in me. I like things put away, clean and organized....maybe even a bit over the top some would say.

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awetmore
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 06:33:19

I made my bag using the pattern (but not the kit) from sailrite. It is am easy project and then you can use any fabric that you like. I used a zipper, but twist closures might be nicer. Do they completely block uv/sunlight from getting onto the sail?

One reason to keep the sheets out is that they are more likely to be wet than the sail. I don't want to pack the damp sheets away in the very center of the sail and encourage mildew.

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NautiC25
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 07:20:10

For that reason, I'm going to splurge on some Samson Ultra-lite sheets. They're super light, float, and don't absorb water.

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pastmember
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 08:37:10

I folded from the clew but left the sheets on, they did not cause a problem. My bag was a custom from an ebay builder, I had a mesh bottom put on it to help things dry.

first I would flake to a single side.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 08:48:28

That's how I do mine, but roll the sheets up in it.

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GaryB
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 12:40:59

Just looking at those hanks makes my tired. Furlers rule!!!

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 12:43:50

Leaving the sheets on and in the blocks, that's almost as good as roller furling in terms off hop on and hop off and sail. My sheets get wet almost every time I sail so it would be better for your sail too. Sharp looking set up Scott.

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Response Posted - 05/23/2012 : 16:34:45

I left my sheets in the blocks, raising the sail unfurled it so which direction you start folding from is personal preference. Personally I never enjoyed my boat as much after I installed a furler. It is a fact that if you watch the boats that go out it is the boats with furlers that get sailed, but I sail anyway and much prefer hanked on sailing.

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smshield28
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Response Posted - 05/24/2012 : 11:03:46

I guess it's that I have never used a furler that I don't mind hanking on the jib. I always stow mine below though. I have a jib bag that came with the boat. I may try the flake and fold method and see how long it takes. I have a nice quick release shackle that connects the jib sheets to the jib so that should make it a little easier.

I always end up leaving the jib/genoa on the forward berth cushions if I'm in a hurry and I know that's not good.

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Response Posted - 05/24/2012 : 12:06:54

Putting a sail away in a bow bag is not any faster than putting it in a sail bag... but going sailing out of a bow bag is very fast

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 05/24/2012 : 19:34:33

It is for me. I don't have to un-hank it and I don't have to lug it back to the sail locker and stuff it in.

Doesn't save alot of time and effort....but it does save some.

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