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goray
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Initially Posted - 09/04/2011 : 09:44:45

How do I know if my Catalina 25 is a tall rig or a standard rig.

Ray Carter

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 10:46:01

Standard rig mast is 28 ft long, tall rig mast is 30 ft long, std rig main luff is approx. 24.6 ft long and the tall rig main luff is approx. 27.6 ft. long.

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DaveR
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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 11:30:44

On a tall rig the boom will smack you in the head on the way by

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 11:30:49

My less precise measurement is to stand in the cockpit and tack - it is a tall rig if you are found unconscious.

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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 15:22:08

The tall rig is a very misunderstood boat. With a bit of love and watching where you put your head during a tack or gybe, she will not smack you with her boom!

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goray
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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 16:03:21

Thank you everone. I just purchased this cat 25 as you can tell. I will soon find out if it is a tall or a standard not the hard way.

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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 18:09:27

Easier way if the mast is already up. Tie a loop in a spare line and mark off 28 and 30 ft. Attach the line at the loop to your main halyard and hoist it up to the top. If the 28 ft. mark is close to the base of the mast, you have a std rig, otherwise a tall rig.

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Dave5041
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Response Posted - 09/04/2011 : 21:31:41

Seriously, they both have good arguments. The boom sits a foot lower on the TR to give the light air benefit of increased sail area without increasing the heeling moment to much. The SR trades that for for better boom clearance and not reefing as early. You will adjust to and enjoy whichever one you have.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 07:20:14

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Dave5041
 My less precise measurement is to stand in the cockpit and tack - it is a tall rig if you are found unconscious.

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Then I must have a tall rig.....BTW, I'm 6'4".....

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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 07:40:51

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 Then I must have a tall rig.....BTW, I'm 6'4".....<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">You just bought the wrong size boat.

Ray: Welcome! When you figure it out, fill in the "Signature" in your Profile (above) so we'll know about you when you ask some more questions.

Edited by - Stinkpotter on 09/05/2011 07:45:21

Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 10:16:23

I'm only 5'5" and the boom would hit me at ear level.

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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 12:28:33

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Derek Crawford

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OJ
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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 15:49:24

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by goray
 How do I know if my Catalina 25 is a tall rig or a standard rig.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">There's usually a "T" on the sail bag . . .

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 18:56:30

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Stinkpotter
You just bought the wrong size boat.
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Yeah, no doubt about that...but....I sure do love my little camper on the water. It's a perfect first boat and teaching me quite alot about what I want in my next boat in a couple of years.

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Response Posted - 09/05/2011 : 20:09:12

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Joe Diver
 ...I sure do love my little camper on the water. It's a perfect first boat and teaching me quite alot about what I want in my next boat in a couple of years.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Of course I was kidding... Our C-25 was mostly a day-sailer, but just the right boat for almost any Long Island Sound conditions (we tested her a little) and sailing with friends. I was more confident in her than in myself.

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Joe Diver
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 06:53:22

I know...but Ill take any opportunity to gush about her.....

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 07:21:19

I just put on my new sail and as such had to lower the boom about 5 inches. Dang deck sweeper now. Didn't even get to sail her this weekend because of the high winds.

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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 07:35:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by PCP777
 I just put on my new sail and as such had to lower the boom about 5 inches...<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Shhhhhhhh... The Chief Measurer might be listening!

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 07:46:22

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Your old sail came from another boat and was too short, and the new one has the correct luff length, right...?

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PCP777
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 10:01:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by dmpilc
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Your old sail came from another boat and was too short, and the new one has the correct luff length, right...?

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Yeah I can only assume that the old sail was too short, hoping this new sail isn't cut too long. Then again, Bill from Gus Sails has done sails for the C-25 nationals and I can only assume he knows what the size should be. I can see where the boom was lower before as the bolts were too wide for the slot below the gate so areas had been drilled out. We borrowed a grinder and widened the slot a bit to accommodate the bolts that attach to the backing plate and allow me to slide my boom up and down in the track like it should. Unfortunately the cold front brought in some very heavy wind so I actually didn't get a chance to take my boat after the adjustment was made.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 11:13:28

You won't go wrong with Gus Sails. Good people!

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sailtim
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Response Posted - 09/06/2011 : 13:50:02

I have a tall rig with a standard rig main. I'm in Rockport, Texas where the wind always blows. 15mph would be a good average. This sail has beautiful shape, unlike a reefed main. I didn't raise the boom so it will still smack a crew. Usually only happens once. Since I sail in heavy air most of the time , this is a really great combination of sails using a sr main.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 09/07/2011 : 10:52:00

Tim, Have you tried hoisting the SR main to just above the gate? It will give you about 6" more headroom, but shouldn't increase your heeling very much. Just make sure the boom doesn't fall out of the gate when you lower the sail!

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