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Sam Nelson
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Initially Posted - 12/10/2002 : 21:34:11

Beginning the winter chores, I took the winches off the mast to clean and lubricate them, and discovered the wooden shapes between the winches and the mast were cracked.
What'cha call those things? And, more importantly, where can I get some?
I haven't yet checked with Catalina or Catalina Direct.

Sam Nelson
C25 "Stratos" #3811

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Douglas
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Response Posted - 12/10/2002 : 22:43:51

Its called a winch pad (Teak) I recomend getting some epoxy and filling the cracks or otherwise put it back together with. I dont think you will find new ones unless you make them. Repair what you have if you can.

Doug&Ruth
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dlucier
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Response Posted - 12/11/2002 : 01:06:45

Teak winch pads are sold at West Marine.

<img src="http://www.westmarine.com/images/full/d00790_f.jpg" border=0>

Here's the link.

http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001& langId=-1& catalogId=10001& productId=2653

Don Lucier, 'North Star'
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On the hard near Lake Erie

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Sam Nelson
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 12:09:32

I would rather go back with new pads... but, it looks like the pads available are flat on both top and bottom. The pad has to have a curved bottom to accomidate the mast.... from looking at West Marine it doesn't appear you can order them pre-fab for a C25 mast... and I'm no carpenter.
Does anyone have an idea what tool(s) to use to form the winch pad to fit on the mast?

Sam Nelson
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Champipple
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 12:55:01

I would try calling catalina yachts parts department.

They should be able to assist you. I would also switch from the orginal wood screws to a machine screw. The purchase should be better.

dw

D. Wolff - "The Flying Wasp" #401 sr/sk
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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 12:55:36

Sam,
I think I'd consider bringing the halyards aft on the cabin top, installing a rope clutch and #6 winch before I'd go through the trouble of making new pads.
If you need more info I know someone out there has photos of laying this out. I think you'll be much, much happier in the end.

Edited by - OJ on 12/17/2002 19:09:48

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 14:46:58

Sam - I don't think those curved pads are available now. I know that the small curved one for the original steaming light has been discontinued. I also agree with OJ to bring the halyard back to the cockpit - much safer & easier set-up. <img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Sam Nelson
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 21:21:52

Actually, the halyards ARE brought back on Stratos... just can't stand the idea of bad wood.. :-}

Sam Nelson
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OJ
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Response Posted - 12/17/2002 : 22:14:41

I'd cut the new pads on a band saw. Here's a potential source for the teak. They might have a piece large enough that you could make it from a solid piece as opposed to laminating two or more pieces together.

http://www.maritimewoodproducts.com/teakcon.htm

Good luck.

Just out of curiosity, if you have the halyards led aft, what are you using the mast winches for?

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Sam Nelson
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Response Posted - 12/18/2002 : 09:36:10

I'm not using them at all, just was doing routine maintenance. However, If I leave the pads as is then someday they will just crumble away. And, I don't want to remove the winches because of the holes that would leave in the mast.
I'll manage something.
thanks to the group! A great source of advice, information, and a few giggles.

Sam Nelson
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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 12/18/2002 : 11:13:19

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Sam,

I once read that the best way to hide a screw hole in a spar is with another screw. Just install an appropriately-sized ss machine screw in the hole. If the holes are too large for a machine screw, well, perhaps this will give you a direction to mull over.

Al
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Response Posted - 12/18/2002 : 13:55:46

Can anyone tell me how to remove the winch from the mast? Mine needs repair. I haven't looked closely at it, but I didn't see an easy way to remove it.

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Derek Crawford
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Response Posted - 12/18/2002 : 16:35:50

Kevin, if you CAREFULLY undo the spring "O" ring around the top of the handle hole, and then CAREFULLY slide off the drum, you will see 5 screws in the base which attach it to the mast.
Derek

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Response Posted - 12/18/2002 : 17:04:50

Adding to Derek's directions, I'd cut a hole the diameter of the winch drum in the side of an open-top box. Then I'd slide the hole over the winch and tape or bungee the box to the mast so that it surrounds the winch and will catch most objects that might fly out. Similarly, on the coaming, I cut the hole in the bottom of the box and fit it over the winch. Either way, you may need a new C-clip... Those things can really fly! (Wear glasses.) King Neptune will always get something from you.

Dave Bristle - 1985 C-25 #5032 SR-FK-Dinette-Honda "Passage" in SW CT

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