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Davy J
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Initially Posted - 01/26/2011 : 16:22:13

Last year I purchased this:

But, I never had the opportunity to rig it up properly, so I have yet to sail with it.

I need to install a spinnaker halyard block on the mast head, and since I installed an anchor roller years ago, a block on it to run the tack line back to the cockpit.

My next question might seem simple, but remember this, I need to lower and then raise my mast every time I go out and come back in.

I have that part down to a science.

My question is; what are you doing with both ends of the spinnaker halyard when not in use?

For example: Do both ends of halyard run down to the base of the mast? Or, do you leave one end wrapped on bow pulpit and the other end to base of mast? Or some other configuration?
I do not want to add complexity to my process of getting in and out.

Davy J

2005 Gemini 105Mc
PO 1987 C25 #5509 SR/SK
Tampa Bay

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/26/2011 : 19:39:34

When not in use, I secure both ends of my spinnaker halyard to the pulpit, but if I had to drop my mast frequently, I'd probably secure them to the mast.

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JohnP
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Response Posted - 01/27/2011 : 06:25:34

When I bought my boat it had both ends of the spinnaker halyard secured to the mast. I've left it there. Since I hoist a gennaker like yours with a sock, this location makes sense.

I hoist the sock from the foredeck, and the only mod I am considering is to add a tiller-line and bungee steering mechanism controlled from the foredeck. That's to steer while hoisting or dousing the sock and the gennaker, when sailing singlehanded without an autopilot.

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dmpilc
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Response Posted - 01/27/2011 : 07:43:42

Most of the spinnaker boats in our marina have the sail end of the halyard secured to the bow pulpit by laying the halyard over and around the rail and clipping the shackle onto the halyard, and the tail is cleated on the mast. Be sure your halyard block is attached to the forward most pin on the masthead and the forestay is attached to the second pin.
Since you have to lower your mast frequently, I agree with Don that you might be better off clipping the halyard shackle to the mast ring instead of the bow pulpit.

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 01/27/2011 : 08:53:04

I secure the shackle end to the mast ring. The "live" end is led aft to the cockpit and secured through a clutch.

I normally launch the asym up through the forward hatch. With this system the crew in the cockpit can raise the sock/spinnaker and the foredeck crew guides the sock through the hatch, attaches the sheets if not already completed, attaches the clew, and raises the sock.

As is usually the case, the system breaks down when single handing, which I do most of the time. My autopilot takes care of the steering aspect while I'm on the foredeck. Raising and guiding the spinnaker up and out of the hatch is a problem however. It is one of the reasons I would like to add a single line furler and sprit. With this equipment everything can be done completely from the cockpit. The $2000 est. cost is preventing me from proceeding with this plan however.

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dlucier
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Response Posted - 01/27/2011 : 09:38:48

Keep in mind, this is from a singlehanded sailor's perspective. When I used to launch my cruising spinnaker from a turtle, and with all my lines at the pulpit, I'd simply walk the turtle forward to the bow pulpit, clip it on the lifeline, make all the line connections (tack, head, clew), then hoist it aloft, all without having to go back and forth to the mast. If things weren't quite right during the hoist, since I'm raising the spin near the pulpit, I could lower and gather the sail at the same time.

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Davy J
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Response Posted - 01/27/2011 : 09:44:30

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">I secure the shackle end to the mast ring. The "live" end is led aft to the cockpit and secured through a clutch.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></font id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I probably will go this route. I already have a clutch and sheave on deck. Did you add a block at the base of the mast?

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aeckhart
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Response Posted - 01/28/2011 : 18:44:10

Davy,

Yes I added a turning block at the base of the mast. The halyard then runs through the deck organizer, then back to a clutch. I eventually had too many lines for the stock organizer and ended up piggy-backing another on top of the original. I can now run four lines per side back to the cockpit. They're all full.

I would use a bag at the pulpit but the sock is sooooo much better when dousing the sail. My process is to open the forward hatch, return to the cockpit to raise the sock/asym, go back to the mast to raise and secure the sock, return to the cockpit and fill the sail. It's ok but is hard work especially on bumpy days.

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