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watercayman
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Initially Posted - 07/07/2010 :  16:56:02  Show Profile
Hi folks,

I've searched the archives but couldn't find a definitive answer. Probably because the question is so obvious it doesn't need asked by most.

But... I'm buying hurricane lines tomorrow and was wondering if 5/8" line would work okay with the cleats on the boat? I use 3/8" now, but haven't tried 5/8" and can't get down to the boat before I go to the marina. Just want to make sure before I shell out a ton on lines.

Anybody use 5/8" on their 250 cleats?

Kind regards,

Mike
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frog0911
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Response Posted - 07/07/2010 :  20:14:08  Show Profile
The 5/8 line will fit the cleat, but only one line. I use 1/2 inch line at the dock and 3/8 when cruising to foreign marinas. I double up the 1/2 inch when we are in the hurricane mode. The way they work is to put one line over the cleat then take the second line through the cleat and loop over like normal. This method locks the first line in-place. I use a total of 12 lines on my boat when hurricane warnings are in affect.
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watercayman
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Response Posted - 07/07/2010 :  20:34:22  Show Profile
Okay, glad to know it will work -- thank you for that!

I have debated plans for a while, and have had several different boats here in the past, including one when Hurricane Ivan decided to visit us for 17 hours at 155mph. With that kind of force, it's pretty much a crap shoot, but where my 250 is located now, I've got 150' long line runs one one side in a 200' wide canal and am probably going to go with a single, but thicker line at each point around. Your method with the double lines on the cleats is ingenious, though, and something I'll have to consider as well.

Thanks for the quick answer!

Mike
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Response Posted - 07/08/2010 :  10:17:26  Show Profile
I think 5/8" diameter is a bit of an overkill.
FWIW, for heavy or high windage boats, West Marine recommends 1/8" of rope diameter for each 8' of boat length; for normal boats, it's 1/8" for 9' of boat length.
In the past I've used 5/8", but it was on a 43' 23,000# houseboat.
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Response Posted - 07/08/2010 :  14:08:08  Show Profile
Very good point, I agree. However, I'm still strongly considering a 32' Catalina to purchase within the next year or two -- these lines would work for the 250 and the 320. With the cost of the lines and the lengths I need, this would hopefully only have me purchasing one set, thus the 5/8" seemed the right choice.
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Response Posted - 07/09/2010 :  11:22:45  Show Profile
watercayman...sent you a PM.
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watercayman
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Response Posted - 07/09/2010 :  12:11:43  Show Profile
Shoot, I don't think the PM thing is working on the site -- it never came through. Would you please resend directly via the address listed in my profile (watercayman at hotmail dot com)?
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Response Posted - 07/10/2010 :  11:26:09  Show Profile
Okay, just tried an email through this forum...I'll also send one to the hotmail address.
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Response Posted - 07/18/2010 :  09:44:02  Show Profile
I like 1/2" line for secondary lines, like spring lines.
I've always used 5/8" for the stern and bow lines. When the original lines chafed, I replaced them with 5/8" again.
The cleats on my boat are a little too small for the line. Frankly, however, I believe the line is probably stronger than the cleats.
Whenever high wind warnings are posted, I typically double the lines.

Luckily, I'm no longer fully exposed out on the river.
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