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Voyager
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Initially Posted - 05/06/2010 : 18:28:28

No - it's no joke - for some reason, whenever anybody tries to slow the boat as it's docking, or getting on or off, folks always grab the stanchions and pull - hard!

Does this happen to everybody? How do you keep your guests from twisting them off?

Bruce Ross
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OJ
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Response Posted - 05/06/2010 : 18:55:55

Approach the dock at a slower speed?

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John Russell
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Response Posted - 05/06/2010 : 18:58:29

Attach them to the battery?

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 05/06/2010 : 20:23:02

John, you might have a good idea there! I think I saw a solar electric fence charger in the harbor freight catalog!

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Response Posted - 05/07/2010 : 04:14:38

Keep a line onboard for boarding, and give them something to do. Have them cleat to the front on the side you are boarding on and have them "Step" off and hold the line. I don't think pulling on the running rigging is going to hurt it.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2010 : 04:31:25

When I undock or dock, I do it all myself and 95% of the time approach the slip stern first. The most that I have ever requested assistance from a guest while docking as been to hold a line for me if I have to pull the boat over to the dock due to wind causing us to drift from the dock. This I assess before I get to the dock noting the direction of the wind. Based on my finger slip location, winds are usually muted a bit and 75% of the time the wind helps or doesn't negatively effect in getting the boat alongside the finger slip. But there are times when the wind is strong and causes the boat to drift away. In those instances, when I am by myself, I position the remaining length of my furling rig line near the winch that will be closest to the finger slip during my approach. I get close the finger slip, get off and then grab the line to ensure if the boat starts to drift, I can pull it over. With guests crowding the cockpit, I have them hold the line to hand to me if need be. But most times, I am so use to docking with no issues, I just bring it alongside, wind up turning off the outboard as I am about ready to get off.

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Response Posted - 05/07/2010 : 13:32:16

The Admiral suggests I install two teak handles on either side of the aft end of the cabintop sides (near the edge of the cockpit bulkheads), which would place them directly behind the stanchion taking the brunt of the abuse. For $16.46 each, it sounds like cheap insurance!

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 05/08/2010 : 13:20:45

Get a Nauti-Duck-O-Matic, and simply ask your guests to not get off the boat, stay in the cockpit and please don't grab the stanchions. Guests shouldn't be doing dock stuff anyway, they haven't a clue - could be dangerous for them and eventually possibly you.

Usually they ask: "how can I help?" Answer: "please stay right where you are in the cockpit."

Not so hard.

As for boarding, suggest you have them board amidships where the shrouds are and use those.

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bigelowp
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Response Posted - 05/08/2010 : 19:52:35

I have docking lines set and available and as soon as ANYONE shows up at the dock to assist I throw them or yell for them to grab the lines! That said, one of the projects on my "to-do" list is to re-bed the stanchions . . .

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Response Posted - 05/09/2010 : 13:14:50

I too have rebedding stanchions as a task on my "post-launch to do list" but I don't want to have to do it every year....
.... the dockline idea may be fine as gives people something to do with their hands.

I've got a duck-o-matic (with a built-in snubber) which is required to qualify as an authentic Nauti brand duck-o-matic. Either one should help with docking.

For guests, does anybody use a set of 1-2 steps for their dock with a railing to allow them easier access to the boat? Maybe something like that would do the trick.

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Stu Jackson C34
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Response Posted - 05/09/2010 : 13:16:36

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by bigelowp
 I have docking lines set and available and as soon as ANYONE shows up at the dock to assist I throw them or yell for them to grab the lines! <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

...as soon as ANYONE shows up at the dock to assist I

politely ask them to please to not touch anything, we're just fine, thank you.

I've had more people, and even dock staff, yank and push on our stanchions. I sometimes ask them, later, if they'd like to spend an entire day or two to help me rebed the bases! None of them volunteer...

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Response Posted - 08/22/2010 : 12:33:29

Not just at a dock.

Approaching my moored boat, launch drivers often are tempted to grab the stanchions or lifeline to hold the two boats together while I board.

We've added a Snake Knot Lanyard, http://www.itstactical.com/2009/10/19/knot-of-the-week-snake-knot/ to a fitting on the genoa track, as a handle. Now the driver intuitively grabs the lanyard.

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Voyager
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Response Posted - 08/22/2010 : 20:27:24

Joe,
Welcome to the forum. You might want to add a signature line with your boat's details.

The knot idea is a great one. The natural "handle" would provide "helpers" with something to grab, whether on the dock or rafting up.

I will try several alternatives.

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Response Posted - 08/23/2010 : 05:44:44

My advice to guests is:
"PLEASE REMAIN SEATED AND KEEP YOUR ARMS AND LEGS INSIDE THE LINES UNTIL THE RIDE COMES TO A COMPLETE STOP."
I agree approaching the dock s-l-o-w-l-y is imperative but it's not always enough to keep helpful people on dock from grabbing something and pulling on it. It's not just stanchions and life lines the get damaged. Rub rails get scuffed or crushed, and bow pulpits get bent when dock handlers,(even the ones who should know better) pull a boat tight up against the dock while it's still moving.It is difficult to have to make the choice, when docking, between offending helpful friends or accepting potential damage. I guess that when handing a person on shore a dock line, that person should be considered crew and should be given instruction to hold the line slack until directed to do something with it by the skipper. Yeah, good luck with that! But it's worth a try.

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Response Posted - 08/23/2010 : 06:42:13

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"> Get a Nauti-Duck-O-Matic, and simply ask your guests to not get off the boat, stay in the cockpit and please don't grab the stanchions. Guests shouldn't be doing dock stuff anyway, they haven't a clue - could be dangerous for them and eventually possibly you. Usually they ask: "how can I help?" Answer: "please stay right where you are in the cockpit." Not so hard. As for boarding, suggest you have them board amidships where the shrouds are and use those. <hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

My thoughts exactly

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